On Dec 22, 6:59*pm, Bored Borg
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:55:32 +0000, Jimmy Mac wrote
(in article
):

On Dec 22, 12:29*pm, B A R R Y wrote:
Jimmy Mac wrote:

WOW bro from across the pond . . . SWAT one year - cars blowing up the
next . . . did ya ever think about moving out of the warzone? * LOL!

Those were my thoughts, as well! *G

LOL!

Car bombs + SWAT = NEW NEIGHBORHOOD!
Look at it this way: *a new start with a new woodshop!

Jums

Did I mention the shooting down the other end of the street?
Late summer. Police chasing a couple of gangsta type pimpoids from across
town just happened to stop _here_ and start shooting at the Old Bill and then
drove off again, followed by the same cops 'cos these guys can't shoot for
**** and barely hit the car. Nobody hurt. Keystone Cops stuff.

I got quietly slung out of the Neighbourhood Watch (a police/citizens
partnership whereby the police want everyone to spy on each other so they
don't have to do any work) for proposing a "we'll sort it out!" proactive
approach to neighbourhood security. It was more a deliberate ploy as up to
that point I was in real danger of being elected tather than a desire to put
together a vigilante group but it was interesting to see the horrified
reaction from the police representatives who want to maintain their position
as the ones with all the power so they can ignore crimes but still posture
about busting folk for sitting on their own front walls drinking beer.

Ours is a very narrow street. With cars parked either side, there is _just_
enough room to get one line of traffic going, and to keep it two way there is
a lot of kerb-hugging, backing up and giving way. It usually works, but I
wouldn't park anything too flash on it. The neighbour's Porsche seems to have
survived O.K. though.

Three or four years back, a couple were having a fight in a car right outside
my house. Man and woman whacking each other while the man still had the car
in gear and feet on the pedals. Car bouncing down the very narrow road
colliding with the *road-narrowing kerb and probably a couple of parked cars.
Kids playing out on the street. I called police. Wanted all _my_ details.

No turn out.

30 minutes later the couple have progressed about 100 yds down the road and
the car is rocking violently from side to side. Screaming and shouting.. Car
bucking on the clutch as the occupants are hurling themselves at each other,
fists flying.

I called the police again.
the response - I was threatened with being arrested because the "already knew
about it" and were "dealing with it," and they didn't want me wasting any
more of their operator's valuable time.

Eventually the fight scene drove off, wheels spinning, gears grating, engine
red-lining and brakes screeching *as it went round the block. The driver was
almost certainly drunk. Not safe to be on the road.

Thank you, police, for making our neighbourhood safe.

A few years before that a friend of mine was going down the alley joining our
road to the local shops. A loaded of hooded yoot *(14-20, dark skin,
sunglasses, baseball hats, drawstring hoods.. ) attempted to take her bag so
she took a couple of them out and chased them down the road then returned to
her house where I was drinking coffee with her husband,
He phoned the police, stating that the hooded yoot in question were all
standing at the end of the road and could easily be rounded up.

No turn out,

Another call 15 minutes later, The kids were still there and why haven't you
turned out?

No turn out

Another 20 minutes later SHE called police and angrily explained that 'as you
refuse to come out, my husband and his friend who are booth karate
instructors are just going to pop down the road and get them for you...'

Utter panic from other end of the phone.

We had no sooner got to the end of his front path when a police car - lights
flashing, sirens wailing- pulled up to stop us going after the scum.

The scum, at this point, dispersed rapidly. Plod was only interested in
stopping us and showed no interest in checking out the robbers.

This, my friends, is England.

More cctv cameras per capita checking up and following citizenry than in any
other country on earth and the police and politicians calling for greater
powers all the while.
If you report a crime, they now redefine what is and what isn't a crime so
that most things are NOT any longer, so they don't need to log them.

e.g. an attempted mugging is probably something like a neighbourhood cultural
misunderstanding exchange, so if reported it gets "lost" before it becomes a
crime figure.

They can then proudly bleat about how crime statistics have improved..

Three months back there was a "party" round the corner, about 1/4 mile away.
The music - going on all night - was so loud we could hear it in our house
with all the doors and windows closed above the t.v. we were watching. Cars
were screaming up and down the road, doors slamming, shouting in the street.
The event - and the music - was pretty much an all-black event and before
anyone gets the wrong idea, it was a raucous aggressive "gangsta" type black
affair and not the sort your black friends go to, at least that was the
message coming over from the style of music, the behaviour in the street and
the D.J. they'd employed, yeah motherfu**er, mothe**ucker, suck my gun, Ho,
get real.....

I know for certain that Plod received several complaints from neighbours with
young children who were being kept awake by the din.
No show.

Police response? Well, no turn out, certainly. Party finally ran out of
steam. Probably run out of crack. Or coins for the electricity meter.

A couple of days later, every house on our street (where the party wasn't)
was leafleted with threats of anti-social behaviour orders being issued.
This street is being closely watched and because complaints have been
received in the area, if anyone on our street made any noise. Ever, they will
be dealt with with the Full Force of The Law.

THAT is sensitive, community policing at work. Now old folk up and down the
street who have respected our old bobbies all their life have suddenly been
issued official threats directed, so it seems, at them personally. Opinions
have changed and confidence in the police severely eroded.

Concensus view? If you're an uppity trouble maker who by an accident of birth
is in a position to play the "racist" card AND get violent if tackled by the
police, you are unlikely to be tackled at all. Instead police will direct
their energies at other people nearby to make it look as if they are doing
_something_

*They won't, under any circumstances involve themselves with the muslim
community, so the well-known terrorist training mosque across town (yes it's
documented) is treated like a foreign embassy. A no-go area. To be fair, they
tried going after a known bomb-maker a year or two back with connections to
the place but the event got manipulated by the local Jihad to look like a
police persecuting the entire muslim community for being, er, islamic. Now
they avoid it like the plague and only target areas with an easy statistical
score.

Round here, they don't show up much. When they do, it's at high speed or
walking through crowds of elderly shoppers - in pairs.

The police are O.K. so long as you don't try and involve them in anything
which they regard as hazardous. They love screeching around the streets or
hovering over your house all night in helicopters and they _really_ love
directing people's movements and "checking up" on everybody in general,
particularly where a result will have some politically favourable outcome..

Actually, it's quite a nice area. People are friendly, reasonable and tend to
look out for one another.

The kid across the street (who had the anti-social behaviour order for what
amounted to sitting on his own yard wall, drinking beer) has knocked on my
door a couple of times when he spotted nearby cars with open windows which
could have been my visitors and he was worried about them being left open all
night.

THAT is community spirit.

Maybe I should have invited him out to the bonfire?

WOW! I'm from Texas . . . this would have been ended in quick haste!
Not only because of gun laws, but because of respect for our
neighbors, respect for the one another, but especially respect for the
law. NO ONE .... I repeat ....NO ONE is above the law. I was a
deputy in Texas and I had to walk a thinner line than civilians.
There were a couple of times that I was in a physical altercation
trying to subdue and handcuff a suspect. Cvilians in Texas are the
greatest. They don't hesitate to jump in and assist. From what I'm
hearing from you, you live in a "police state" - not a "policed
state." In America ~ we don't want to control crime, we want to rid
ourselves of it. There are exceptions to every rule, but in general I
believe every American is sick of the drug dealing, the beatings of
our elderly and the rapes of our women. I never have supported
vigilante-ism nor will I ever. I will protect that which is mine and
those who are dear to me.

Good luck my friend . . . the road uphill is a little tougher.

Jums