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Default OT - Is it really worth saving any more?

jo4hn wrote:
Doug Winterburn wrote:
jo4hn wrote:
Doug Winterburn wrote:
Mark & Juanita wrote:
People still
die in fights, so the statists start looking for the next problem
-- now
there are people in England seriously discussing regulating and
banning
knives. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4581871.stm [You just
can't
make this stuff up].

Baseball bats, screw drivers, chisels, tire irons and yes,
automobiles need to be banned. Perhaps after all the inanimate
objects have been controlled, boxing gloves should be required to be
worn at all times as fists are a dangerous weapon.

All those things were made for and have other uses. Guns have one
use: to kill or maim people and other animals. If you want boxing
gloves, you can't fire your gun.


Not sure what the Canuckistani (or other countries) founding fathers
saw as a use for firearms, but the US (old white) guys saw it a little
differently than you:

http://www.lizmichael.com/founding.htm


OK. If we are attacked by armies on our shores, I will take up arms. Or
do you believe that we are currently under such attack? In the post
revolution time frame, that pesky word "militia" keeps showing up.


You didn't read it all:

SOUND BITES FROM BEFORE AND AFTER THE REVOLUTION

Samuel Adams:

"Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to
life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right
to defend them in the best manner they can."

John Adams:

"Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion
for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private
self-defense."

Thomas Jefferson, in an early draft of the Virginia constitution:

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms in his own lands."