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Default The lesson from the Mumbai mayhem

On Nov 29, 6:32*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:34:35 -0800 (PST), TwoGuns





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On Nov 28, 4:40*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in m...


"Ignoramus11056" wrote in message
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http://www.reuters.com/article/world...4AQ52120081127


``Security specialists say the attack was probably months in the
planning and appears to have been finely tuned in its execution, but
it ultimately relied on only an estimated 25 gunmen lightly armed with
assault rifles and hand-grenades.''


What they forgot to say that it relied also on the fact that the
Indian citizens who were attacked, were not armed. Somehow, I have
hard times visualizing this attack happening in, say, Oklahoma City..


You shouldn't. Just multiply the civilian death count by an order of
magnitude.
Armed civilians sounds good but hasn't any value in the face of surprise
and a well organized and purposeful enemy.
Under those conditions, civilians would have been shot and killed out of
hand specifically on the chance that they might have been armed.
Whether they actually were wouldn't matter a bit. The perpertrators will
certainly be killed regardless you know.


JC


It's simple. Just shoot anyone who isn't a cop and who is waving or shooting
a gun. You can even get them to form a circular firing squad to make it more
efficient. g


I agree with what you're saying. If some smart attackers were to try it in
some place where the citizens were personally armed, they'd probably build
that into their plan. Done right, you could start a chain reaction of
marvelous proportions.


But there is no such place in the developed world, including the US. I
haven't checked the percentages in different states but Texas, for example,
has issued carry permits to something like 1.5% of its population. That
wouldn't start a chain reaction. It would be a fizzle. The effect of armed
citizens would be negligible. But the more there were, the more opportunity
there would be to get them shooting each other. Viola! Critical mass....


--
Ed Huntress


Terrorists are usually:
Young Men 17 to 35
Usually Middle Eastern
Will probably be yelling"Allah Akbar" or whatever.


So if you are in a shootout.
Don't shoot Old Men
Don't shoot any Women unless they are yelling things like "Die Jew,
Die American, Allah Akbar etc."
Chances are pretty good the terrorist will NOT be White.
To make sure you are not mistaken for a terrorist by other armed but
innocent citizens yell at the top of your lungs, "Mohammed is a
faggot, **** Mohammed or some other appropriate term a Islamist
Fanatic would NEVER say.


Double tap head shots and throat first in case the terrorists have
body armor.
Use frangible ammo to prevent richochets.


Or you could just look for a place to hide and cower in fear.


Dennis


Dont hide *under the bed...Ed will already be there.

Gunner

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LOL...Gunner you are a fool...and a dead one if in that situation.

Ed is right...only a fool stands against a superior force.

TMT