On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:32:36 -0800 (PST), the infamous
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On Nov 29, 2:19 pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"Wes" wrote in message

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"Ed Huntress" wrote:

Nah! You know that trained, registered gun owners wouldn't panic like
that over most things, Ed.

Not a chance. They'll panic like anyone else.

I'd agree that they would be scared chit less but, not being totally
defenseless has a
calming effect. Also a moderating effect on one's action. I carry
legally. Comes with a
real attitude change if you understand the legal framework that binds you.

Wes

I think that facing three or four determined, fanatical loonies with AK47's
would push anyone except a *current* combat veteran over the limit. The only
question is how many 7.62 mm bullets you'd take before hitting the ground;
and whether it would happen before or after you got off a shot with your
Glock or whatever.

They have every advantage -- especially if they see you pull a gun.

Arming oneself for individual self-defense against normal criminals has a
reasonable statistical chance of working in your favor. In this situation,
it's probably a liability.

--
Ed Huntress

Thank you, Ed, for a logical analysis - I feel you are quite right,
and from detailed reports on our daily papers telling how it was done
with military precision, and timing, and even to the hijacking a
fishing trawler to come in by sea to avoid normal security measures -
these were trained to a high degree.

25 fanatics, armed with AK47's, grenades, and explosives, trained to
use them, with a co-ordinated plan of attack - who would you put up
against them except people of similar training and weaponry? -

If I were unarmed and caught in that hotel at that time, I'd want
-anyone- with bullets, arrows, rocks, or rockets to stand up to them
for me. What would you want in that situation?


certainly not some unfit, middle aged civilian armed with a pistol
dreaming of the chance to be heroic....

Google "warsaw ghetto uprising", "french resistance" or numerous
others, Andrew. A few, untrained, poorly-armed men/women/children
fighting back against great odds have been, and will continue to be (I
hope) detailed throughout man's history.


And, eventually, what took them out was larger numbers of combat
trained troops with the weapons and ability to use them.

That's how society usually works. The greater force overcomes.

--
In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a
question mark on the things you have long taken for granted.
-- Bertrand Russell