On Nov 23, 10:25�pm, (Don Klipstein) wrote:
In article , PeterD wrote:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:40:02 -0800, "Bill"
wrote:

This thread has seemed to hit a nerve!

Why are so many people getting upset that I am working to eliminate "vampire
loads" in my house and reduce my electric bill?

Anyway here are the facts about "vampire power" for those who are interested
in this (can be 5% of your electric bill and 75% of the power for electronic
things is used while the devices are turned off!)....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standby_power

Pleae do not confuse Wikipedia for facts. As to that 75% number, it is
highly suspect.

Again, a simple cost/benefit analysis would show the best path to
follow. However, simple math is beyond many people who blindly follow
whatever the current fad is (be it global warming, electric cars, or
whatever) in an attempt to appear 'on top of things', and 'all wise'.

In the end, sure you can save a few penny's of electricity, and spend
dollars doing so.

SNIP from here

� Putting in a little effort can decrease idling load by maybe 20 watts,
give or take (with major variation from household to household). �That
amounts to about 175 KWH per year, or roughly about $20 per year at
current average residential electricity rates.

� I really ought to get a power strip for my TV. �Most of the energy it
consumes is consumed while it is off. �Same is true of my DTV box.. �If my
computer system was not on a power strip, most of the energy consumed by
my printer and cable modem (and its wallwart) would be consumed while they
are off. �If not for the power strip, about 5% of the energy consumed by
my monitor and 20% of the energy consumed by the contents of my tower case
would be consumed while they were off. �And over 90% of the energy
consumed by my landline phone is consumed while it is on standby.

� That 75% number sounds high to me - I think more like 30%, possibly
40%, which is still a lot.

�- Don Klipstein )- Hide quoted text -

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tv life expectancy and othewr deevices may be less,turned off from
thermal cycle shock.

DTV boxes use idle time to download guide updates and other utilities.

its not a free lunch