"dennis@home" wrote in message
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"tonyjeffs" wrote in message
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Aarrgh - need a break - I'm plumbing a new kitchen.

Lots of people say how good the plastic pipe is, and it is used on a
lot of newbuild, so I thought I'd try it.
But I hate it. It curls up on itself, you can't put a bend in it,
the joints are huge,

What joints?
If you use plastic you don't need many joints.
On a new build you would put in a manifold and run a pipe to each outlet
with no joints at all.

You can do that with copper using microbore.