tonyjeffs coughed up some electrons that declared:

Aarrgh - need a break - I'm plumbing a new kitchen.

Lots of people say how good the plastic pipe is, and it is used on a
lot of newbuild, so I thought I'd try it.
But I hate it. It curls up on itself, you can't put a bend in it,
the joints are huge, and because it is flexable I find I measure it
inaccurately.
So I'm going to bin it and buy some 15mm copper.

What do other people think?

Tony

I'm coming late to this, but I'll put my ha'peth in.

I like copper. It's known to generally last forever (pin-holeing crap
aside). It looks neat when run and it can take a bit of abuse. After a bit
of practise, soldering joints doesn't take very long.

I'm not saying that doesn't apply to decent plastic, but I don't have 1st
hand experience that it does, so I'd rather stay with what I know.

The two things that worry me about plastic a

1) Will the push-fit grippers give way and blow the joint apart (same with
copper push fit)? My static mains pressure is 7.5 bar (fairly high).

2) How long do those O-rings actually last? I pondered this also after I
unclipped the cooker's from the gas bayonet open the other day...

The answers might well be 1) never and 2) forever, but as I say, no personal
experience...

The price of copper with end feed fittings isn't that much in the grand
scheme of things, once you've got your sinks and radiators, tank(s) and
boiler(s) [hello Drivel].

But in the spirit of trying new things, I'll get a bit of plastic to do some
temporary connections to the bog when I have to clear the old copper and
iron out of the way, just to see what they're like...

Cheers

Tim