"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message
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I grant you all your points as valid, and bottoming (or farting)
a woofer is truely a horid sound.

Agreed. I've never heard it called that, but it's an apt description.

What gets you up so early on a Sunday? (I'm on the west coast, and have
been
up since 2AM.)

went out had a couple of dogfish 90 minutes and that set me down early(8pm)
some days your just not tired at 4 am
G