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"Peter Parry" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:13:53 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
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"Peter Parry" wrote

Unfortunately they don't, they are
an hour or two apart.


Government research stated so.


Oh, _Government_ research. Must be right then.


That is what they concluded - no doubt by a privet company contracted on.

Would this be the same "Government
research" which assumed windmills on houses would
produce kilowatts a day of electricity per house in towns?


I don't know about that.

You also haven't explained how generating
100w/hr for a few months of the year
is going to affect infrastructure requirements?


Your estimate are way off the governments.


You are supposed to be a plumber


I am not a plumber. Never in million years

- how much energy would be needed to
heat a 3 bedroom house built to modern building standards? How
efficient is the boiler doing the heating? The only energy left to
power the generation part of the Microgen plant is part of the 10%
waste heat from the boiler. You should be able to work out how much
that will be quite easily. When you do you will see my figures are
right (if not a bit high).


The best of them use a thermal store to store energy. The utilities wanted
to control them remotely and start them up at specific times. This was
looked into.

Only if you are a neo-Luddite.


Nonsense. You have NEVER approved any advanced ideas,


Which "advanced ideas"?


Any.

Local district CHP is a superior way to go, fired by
natural gas, using waste heat to heat buildings and
less line losses.


That isn't what we are talking about.


It is all power generation related.

However the anachronistic grid will remain. It is there to justify
nuclear - which is a big expensive mistake. The only reason to keep it is
using lagoons to generate electricity. The UK and Ireland can get all of
its energy, including EVs, by having about 20% of the Irish Sea made into
tidal lagoons - a 20-25 year project though, but it will be implemented in
stages.


It will?


If it goes ahead.

Our electricity can be generated over the horizon.


It already is -in nuclear reactors in France.


And when they malfunction, many are on the Channel coast a few miles away
from us. Nuclear is not cheap and waste an expensive waste of time in the
long run. A front for nuclear bombs.

Reducing energy needs helps a lot. Having superinsulation in new and
reconditioned homes. PVs & solar panels as standard on roof tops, etc,
etc.
Better urban design reducing the need for car use, etc. As high insulated
homes with solar design are being introduced, and the lagoons brought on
line the impact should be a lot quicker than people think.


So with these highly insulated homes what is the role of the Baxi
Ecogen?


That is an expensive waste of time in eco homes.

Town planning and improving the building regs to superinsulation, passive
solar, etc, costs the taxpayer next to nothing. The insulation and design
is
paid for by the house builders.


You learn your economics from "Mr Browns Bedtime Economics Reader" I
presume?. Who do you think pays the house builders?


It is not via taxation. Those who benefit pay for it. Mass production
brings prices down to what we have now, or less as pre-fabbed SIP panels
will have to be used, instead of this shoddy brick an block and Paramount
board crap we see now, that leaks air like hell.