wrote:
On Nov 15, 4:47 am, Huge wrote:
On 2008-11-14, wrote:





On Nov 14, 10:14 am, Huge wrote:
On 2008-11-14, wrote:
On Nov 14, 4:51 am, Huge wrote:
On 2008-11-13, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
US has more started becoming concerned about wash economy too, but
you can't simply put a European washing machine in the US,
W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You can buy Bosch front-loaders in the US now, although as
you say, low foam detergents are hard to find, and rumour has it that Bosch
don't have much of a service operation in the US, so it will be hard to get it
fixed if it fails.
The Bosch's sold in the US use the same HE detergents that all the
other front loading machines sold in the US use.
And there are ****loads of those, right?
Well, actually yes, there are lots of front loaders being sold. If
you got away from watching cartoons and went to any appliance store
you would see that the stores are full of them.
One of the less attractive traits of Merkins is the utter inability to admit
they're wrong.


And exactly who's wrong here about what? Let's recap. Someone
posted:

"you can't simply put a European washing machine in the US,"

To which you replied:

" W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You can buy Bosch front-loaders in the US
now, although as
you say, low foam detergents are hard to find, and rumour has it that Bosch
don't have much of a service operation in the US, so it will be hard to get it
fixed if it fails. "



That makes the false implication that because Bosch's washers are
being sold in the US, that they are a European type front loader
machine, in some way identical to the features, voltages, cycles, etc
of the European machines being discussed in this thread. For
example, in this thread it was claimed that European machines don't
need a hot water connection because they do any heating themselves.
I can assure you that the front loaders sold here do require a hot
water connection, just as any washer would. Just because they are
Bosch doesn't mean that besides being front loaders they are European
machines. In fact, they are made for the US market and are similar to
ALL THE OTHER FRONT LOADERS SOLD HERE.

And the HE type detergent that ALL the manufacturers of front loaders
being sold in the US recommend, including Bosch, is widely
available. Tide HE is but one common example that you can find in
just about any supermarket. You're dead wrong on that one.

And then after I posted:

The Bosch's sold in the US use the same HE detergents that all the
other front loading machines sold in the US use.

Your reply was:

"And there are ****loads of those, right? "


As another poster pointed out, from Maytag's website, 6 of the 15
washers they sell here are front loaders. Take a look at a common
retailer, BestBuy's website.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....&type=category

They have 23 top loaders and 73 FRONT LOADERS as line items. Front
loader manufacturers are Whirlpool, LG, Frigidaire, Maytag, GE,
Samsung, Electrolux, and Kitchenaid. And given the price delta,
which do you think they push and sell? Walk into the store and the
front loaders are prominently featured, the top loaders are in the
back.


So, living in the UK, stop making an ass of yourself about that which
you don't know. Perhaps using rumours as if they were fact is your
major malfunction.



On the other hand the Bosch WAS20160UC (a current model in the US)
requires Nominal voltage: 220-240V, 60Hz; Nominal current: 15A. Which is
remarkably close to the specification of broadly similar models in
Europe. (OK - let us accept the 50/60 Hz thing is a minor difference.)

It does have hot and cold fill - but that seems unrelated to the
machine's electrical spec. (I.e. at that rating, a fairly decent
internal heating element is quite feasible.)

If you go to the WFMC8440UC model, you get:

Internal Water Heater
An internal heating element heats the water to up to 170 F while a
digital temperature sensor continually monitors the water temperature.
Bosch Nexxt washers deliver the most efficient and accurate water
heating method for each selected fabric type.

(Though that is a 110-120V model with just 1350W rating.)

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