S'mee wrote:
On Nov 12, 8:18 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
S'mee wrote:
On Nov 11, 6:21 pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
SNIP

## With what part of the Patriot Act do you have a problem?

It's uncostitutional and doesn't work... Not to mention it's
completly unworkable, stupid and indefensable from a rational point
of view.

I keep asking "what part" and you keep saying "IT." The Patriot Act
is a collection of modifications to some sixty-odd existing laws.
"IT" can't be unconstitutional because there is no "IT."

I've read the law... I've talked to a couple of lawyers I know (yes I
kept my hand on my wallet) their comments mirrored my own. WHAT LOAD
of unconstitutional ****. BUT because it's "for the children and saves
the christian women" it's going to stand for now. That still doesn't
make it right or constitutional. The PA is as ****ed up as the
rantings of a 9/11 conspiracy kook. That's my opinion and weirdly
enough my opinion IS fact. Learn to deal with the fact that yeah, I am
smarter than congress. No I wont run and yes I don't mind spanish
communists. Yes I own guns, it keeps the politicians and xstian
cultists away.

I've asked and asked what part of the PA you find objectionable and I have
yet to get an answer. You say you've read the act. All indications are that
you didn't.

An "opinion" cannot be a "fact."

You're correct in that the result of the Patriot Act does not determine
whether it's constitutional, even if it is for the children. In fact, three
parts of the PA HAVE been declared unconstitutional. The remaining
provisions of the PA are, as a matter of fact and law, constitutional. As an
aside, you don't get to decide what is or is not constitutional; that
decision is a matter of law and for the courts.





So tell me what is so great about the UNPatriotic act? Nothing
that's what Homeland security is a joke and should be a MINOR part
of FEMA...I said that when they came out with it and I stand by it
now. Anybody that supports it is either an idiot or a member of the
National Socialist Democratic Party or in simple words for a simple
minded moron "NAZI's"

I call "Godwin!"

Godwin is a putz...and I was making a valid point so thppppppt.

The PA was passed by an overwhelming majority of both Democrats and
Republicans in the Congress. Are you, therefore, suggesting we call the
Congress the Reichstag?



OH by the way...my houses are bigger than yours. For that matter
there is NOTHING you have that is better than anything I have and I
EARNED it all by working not just hard but SMART. something a
pathetic dribble of spittle like you could never achieve and before
that I defended this country because I could. You aren't even
homosexual enought to defend our constitution you hateful loser.

And this applies exactly how to the PA?

Those who resort to insulting their debate opponent have lost the
debate.

You started it. By claiming the PA was a good thing. It' most patently
is not and it is most assuradly unconstitutional.

No, I didn't 'start it.' I said the PA was a Good Thing (tm). Period. I
didn't say you were an idiot for not recognizing the Patriot Act was a Good
Thing (tm). There's a big difference. For the record, I don't think you are
an idiot. Misinformed, perhaps. Ignorant, certainly. But I believe you have
potential, as do all God's children. I will pray to baby Jesus for your
enlightenment.