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AZ Nomad wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:39:25 -0400, George wrote:
Larry Caldwell wrote:
In article ,
(Claude Hopper) says...

I don't recall asking for cheap, cheap, crappy, crappy backstab outlets.
I also don't see a big problem curling the end of a wire to fit around a
screw; take what, 2 seconds?
It's not the receptacle, it's the labor. Strip and stab is quicker than
strip and screw. The general contractor asked the electrical sub for
cheap, and the electrical sub delivered. If you can set and torque
screw terminals in 2 seconds, you need to go into business.

But overall its the "Walmart syndrome". At one time people used to
consider value. Now its cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap. So they demand cheap
from the builder and the builder demands cheap from the subs and the
subs demand cheap from their suppliers.


I don't know why people keep picking on walmart in particular. It's
no different than the supermarket chains, or any other large chain.
Supermarkets killed the local farmers markets. Target, Kmart, and
Walmart are pretty much the same kind of company. Sears was doing it
40 years ago. Competition from mail order outlets has been going on
for 100 years.


But they perfected it and took it much further that anyone else so they
should get credit.

Bitch bitch bitch. If you want to compete with walmart&co, you simply
have to find a niche and do it better at least until walmart copies you.
Farmers markets stay in business by providing niche products (organic,
etc.) Lots of small bookstores, retail outlets have done the same.
Or pretend that you don't have to improve and watch the local
supermarket kill your business.