Nate Nagel wrote in
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Jim Yanik wrote:
Nate Nagel wrote in
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Jim Yanik wrote:
Nate Nagel wrote in
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Kurt Ullman wrote:
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"Bob F" wrote:


Really? No foreigners hate Bush? At all? Especially not ones
with weapons and no moral compunctions about killing those that
they feel are deserving of same?

You h ave any indication that they hate BUSH or just the
person who
is in the office. You think those with weapons and no compunction
to
no compunction -against- killing,I believe you mean...

kill are suddenly going to put down their weapons and participate
in mass sing alongs of "Kumbaya" suddenly in mid- January?
I doubt it, but likely their general, low-level hatred of people
that don't share their beliefs suddenly have a focus due to Bush's
actions.
That had that focus since Jimmy Carter's time.
Hezbollah(an Iranian creation) has been around a long time.

And that focus takes a long time to blur, so we'll be dealing wit
hthe aftermath for a while.

Had we actually cleaned up the neighborhood in Iraq (and
Afghanistan for that matter) quickly after the initial invasion
(e.g. MASSIVE commitment of police-type forces) things might have
been different. Unfortunately our leaders were too short sighted
to not lose the war after winning the battle.

nate

Well,Nate,similar mistakes and setbacks were made in just about
every war the US has been in,but we adjusted. (see Victor Davis
Hanson's articles..) One MAJOR thing different this time is that we
no longer had the support of the media.

Of course. Those who do not learn from history, et cetera. This is
why Bush et. cie. are failures. Do *you* support someone who keeps
doing the same thing over and over and expects a different outcome?
Isn't that a clinical definition of insanity?

nate


Major misconception;
Bush is NOT "doing the same thing over and over".

Sure he is. After all the lessons of Vietnam, he again invaded a
foreign country with insufficient resources to get the job done.

you obviously don't knwo anything about the Vietnam War;it was lost due to
anti-war hysteria and lack of a liberal Congress to support the
S.Vietnamese. We had plenty of resources.
Even NV's Gereral Giap admitted the great help the US anti-war people were.

Bush made a strategic move for the ME with the Iraq war.
IMO,it was/is a good idea.

No it wasn't.

As if you would recognize any such thing...


It WOULD have helped greatly if the DemocRATs had given true support
instead of being divisive and thus giving moral support to the enemy.

Iraq wasn't our enemy (at least not actively) until we invaded it.

Of course you have forgotten the first Iraq War where we kicked them out of
Kuwait,destroyed much of their armor,and established a No-Fly Zone,which
Iraq would violate,fire missiles at US aircraft in violation of the truce
they signed.You seem to be lacking in historical knowledge.


But they would rather appease the enemies of the US,thinking that
will buy them respect and good will.How naive.

see above.

meaningless comment.

DemocRATs,leftists,and socialists would rather see the US fail than
Bush succeed.

You don't get it. WE *HAVE* FAILED.

Only in the Leftist DemocRAT mindset.Surrender monkeys.

We could have either a) not
invaded Iraq at all or b) invaded, but after taking over the country
militarily have sent in forces sufficient to maintain peace and keep
things under control. We didn't do either. Now the people of Iraq
just want us gone; to them we're yet another Saddam.

As if you would have any knowledge of that....

I have yet to hear an explanation of a reasonable objective that has
been accomplished by invading Iraq.

Only becaus eyou don't listen;you filter out what you will not accept.

BTW, I am neither a Democrat, leftist, nor socialist. Just someone
who is unimaginably furious at Bush for being such a total and
complete failure after having the complete support of nearly the
entire world (immediately post-9/11)

Bush Derangement Syndrome,as your position is not supported by the facts.

nate


If you support Obama,you are a socialist[communist],a "useful idiot",or
been in a hole for the last several years.

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Jim Yanik
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