"HeyBub" wrote in message
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N8N wrote:

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Feith, and others understand this. Obama,
Biden, Pelosi, Carter, and others of the left do not.

Oh, yes, if I want examples of functional, intelligent foreign policy,
I'm going to turn to people like Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld.

Couldn't you come up with some examples of people who have not been
dismal failures?


Sure. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Feith. Actually, anybody who claims to be a
neoconservative.

I guess it depends on your definition of success. In my definition, foreigners
don't get a vote and success depends entirely on what's in the best interests
of the United States. I am indifferent in the extreme whether the French have
their feelings hurt or the Minoans are miffed. I measure success by how many
enemies of this great republic, their wives, children, and goats die a
horrible death (preceded, if possible, by piteous lamentations), not the
readings on some imaginary "Love Meter."

To paraphrase Admiral Halsey: "Kill terrorists. Kill terrorists. Kill more
terrorists!"

But, being fair, I can see how to those who value - nay, depend - on the
approbation of others will have a different metric (to use a Rumsfeld word) in
measuring "success."


Unfortunately, we are creating way more terrorists than we are killing by our
actions.
People get mad when the are invaded, occupied, and killed by the hundreds of
thousands.