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Mark & Juanita wrote:
t wrote:

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:59:58 -0700, Mark & Juanita
wrote:

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If the polls are right, your side is going to win, we are all going to
get
to watch as the nation goes socialist. Hope that in 5 years you are all
happy with that which you have supported.

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I suspect that you don't have a working definition of Socialism.


Given your professed deep knowledge of the definitions of socialism,
Marxism, and communism, please help the rest of us by participating in the
following exercise:

1) Compare and contrast Marx's infamous quote: "From each according to his
ability, to each according to their need" SNIP


That is his most famous quote, but there are actually several practical
pillars to Marxism. Three that leap to mind that are chilling in light of current political discussion:

1) Redistribution of wealth, by force if necessary.

2) Forced education of children by the State.

3) State takeover (by force) and ongoing ownership of the
means of production/wealth.

'Sound familiar?

Then there's plain old vulgar Communism. I once heard a man speak
who'd lived through the rise of the USSR and Iron Curtain falling
across Eastern Europe. He pointed out that in essentially every
case where the Communists took over (by force, naturally) they
did three things either on the way to getting power or shortly
thereafter:

1) Limited/eliminated the use of cash.

2) Eliminated personal ownership of weapons.

3) Strictly regulated and monitored individual travel.

'Sound familiar?


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