John R. Carroll wrote:

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
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John R. Carroll wrote:

"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:15:25 -0700, "John R. Carroll"
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Not this time George. I think what is happening is a refusal to admit
that
their version of free markets doesn't work as advertised and never did.
That's called denial.

It's called "short selling."


They are especially trying to deny that a strong economy relies on an
upwardly mobile, prosperous, middle class and a reasonable gap between
the
upper and middle class as far as income goes.

One example is how Boeing is attempting to reduce their costs for
US engineers [while at the same time complaining that no one
wants to be an engineer any more and work 80 hours a week..]
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The metric of choice in civil aviation doesn't involve Boeing at all,
It's the heatlth of the operators that's important and they are very sick
and have been for years. Another instance where opaque deregulation has
lead to failure of an industry.


JC


I was with you all the way up to the end, but I disagree with the last
sentence.

Deregulation? Of civil aviation?


Yes.
Have you looked at the shenanigans surrounding ticket pricing?
Fairs used to be regulated in a way that kept them high enough to cover
costs.
Fair wars aren't good for the airlines or, in the long run, passengers.


No, the failure of that particular industry is entirely due to the legal
industry.


How's that?
Rate deregulaion lead to maintenance practices that were criminal fraud.
Is that what you mean?

JC



Sorry, to my mind civil aviation doesn't include the airlines, but in
reality it does,

The term I use is General Aviation, which inclued airlines and the
little guys (civil).

It maay not be that way, but that's what I was thinking.

Sorry (again)



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