On Oct 13, 6:29*pm, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying
something like:

Why do you need a seat in the first one ...Just use the old European
thing with the hole in the floor and the footplate things either side
....have a mirror as well and you can shave in the shower so no need
for a w/h basin ..more space saved .

Good suggestion. The seatless one can be the ultra-stripped version for
cheapskates.

If you had a crp retention shelf with the shower cold feed running
under it you'd have drain heat reovery, and could sell it on its green
credentials. Also you could cut costs by eliminating (groan) the flush
mechanism, since showering will take care of that. This will also give
enough time for 100% turd heat extraction.

What a winner!


NT