"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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"neverwas" wrote in message
om...
snip Do I need a
builder, a landscape gardener or what?

I'm sure either would do the job. snip

So perhaps a possible answer to "what" is "whoever was used by someone in
your area whose
patio you like the look of and which has lasted one/several winters"?

Isn't a patio permanent?

The block paving one I put down is permanent.. not since the rats decided to
start tunneling through the sand.
It was level, now its full of man traps.
I will have to dig it up and cast a concrete base.

Mary