Upscale wrote:
"Tim Daneliuk" wrote in message
Utter nonsense. People at or below the poverty line get medical care
on a regular basis in the US without regard for their ability to pay.
And, that's exactly what I said. To get that free health care in the US, you
have to be poor. I repeated it more than once. Try reading a little closer.
It is flatly better for *most* people but there are exceptions.
That I certainly don't agree with. *Most* people as you state are not rich,
but of middle income. A few serious brushes with the US medical system and
there's every chance their middle income status is in jeopardy.
So, let me get this right. You have a *right* to keep what you've
earned AND a simultaneous *right* to healthcare, even if others have to
pay for it. IOW, it is the job of other people to ensure your
middle class lifestyle is not compromised. Is that correct?
I don't see a giant rush of wealthy Europeans and Asians going to
Canada for treatment of serious illness. The Canadian system is
good, but does not attract the best medical folk, acts very slowly
Ahh, I see, you're stuck on "wealthy people". Most people are NOT WEALTHY.
Typical money grubbing outlook. If you've got money, then screw everybody
else. As long as you can pay for what you need, then everybody else can go
You're the one advocating a "screw everybody else" scheme not me.
I advocate that everyone maintain title to that which they have earned
legitimately. You advocate a system wherein other people are forced to
pay for what you want. Lovely.
to hell. Absolutely zero social conscience just as long at your needs are
looked after. Very selfish of you.
It is not selfish to object to having your wallet looted or being
robbed at the point of a government gun. It takes a particular
kind of dishonesty to try and paint this kind of theft as noble,
but you're sure good at it.
How about drug abusers with HIV and AIDS? How about people who
never exercise, eat a horrible diet, and then drain the system
So tell me Tim. Have you ever in your life had unprotected sex? Not once?
Have you ever eaten a Big Mac? No? You've never eaten a bag of potato chips
or had a beer? I realize you're as pure as they come and society has no one
except itself to blame. But, I have to ask, exactly how much hypocritical
bull**** do you expect people to believe?
I never claimed to have never done something irresponsible. But I
do not advocate the use of government force to steal from you to
may for my mistakes ... and that's the difference between us.
crying for nationalized healthcare here are those who either want
something they have never earned or want a "get out of jail free" card
for their personal behaviors.
And that's your problem. You're absolutely convinced that everyone who
supports socialized healthcare is looking for a freebie. You *know without a
They are. Socialized healthcare punishes the healthy/responsible to
the benefit of the ill/irresponsible and it does so using force - the
force of government. It is dishonest and immoral.
doubt* that there's nobody out there who has consideration for others
besides themselves.
You, of course, care so much about others that your "consideration"
involves giving yourself permission to steal from your fellow citizens.
Bravo.
Selfishness is your highest ideal and you live by might is right. Common
My highest ideal is integrity. It is dishonest to steal from one citizen,
give it to another, and then try and claim some imaginary moral high ground.
ideals of many citizens of the US. All the current financial woes of those
financial institutions that failed in the US are a direct result of that
kind of greedy outlook and now it's starting to bite you in the butt big
time.
Enjoy!
The current "financial woes" are not just those of the US, they are
global and they have a common cause, and it is indeed greed. It is
the greed of the rank and file citizens around the world who insist
on things they have not earned being their "right" and use their
respective governments to loot other citizens to get what they want.
The current financial problems showed up in the banks only because
that's where the money is moved, but at its core, this is payday for
the socialism/communism you adore so much.
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