Tim Daneliuk wrote:

Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 09:25:11 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:

2) A simultaneous program of phasing out all SS/Medicare over, say,
50 years was implemented to get government OUT of the business
of retirement - where it has neither any business nor Constitutional
authority to operate.

AFAIK, there are only two industrialized nations that do not provide
health care and pensions to all. Those are the United States and South
Africa.

Tim, I think you've got a bad case of "every one is out of step but me."

Yes, I know - you're going to tell me the Constitution doesn't allow it.
I happen to think you're wrong, but if you're right I think the
Constitution needs to be changed.

A document written for an agrarian society where life expectancy was 40
or less and the medical establishment didn't even know about bacteria
needs to be interpreted to fit today's society.


I do not like seeing my freedoms and economic future eroded because
people who see things your way are unwilling to follow the law to
achieve what they want. We live with a lawless government, a thieving
public, and a permanent whining victim class as a result. Oh, and BTW,
"we're only one of two nations not offering nationalized healtcare"
is the worst of all possible reasoning. You want healthcare to be
the same here as it is in Burundi or Senegal? I like our healthcare
system - it's just fine with me as it is ... or it least it is better
than anything those morons in D.C. could ever do. You want healthcare
run with the same effectiveness as the people who scan our luggage
at the airport. I don't.


A taste of the futu
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2983652/Baroness-Warnock-Dementia-sufferers-may-have-a-duty-to-die.html?source=EMC-new_19092008
Note one of the primary drivers here for a death penalty for the living is
to limit the impact upon the National Health Service; and this coming from
a country that doesn't have the death penalty for even the most vicious of
criminals just to add to the irony.

This is one of those countries that so many are wringing their hands that
we aren't emulating by providing for everyone's health care.
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