On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:01:07 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:
I have a Freesat From Sky card and when I remove it Ch5 is the one I
can't get .Ch4 IS available .

IIRC, CH5 group have a contract with Sky for non terrestrial broadcast,
but this won't last forever.

Yeah I think it's only a matter of time but what I replied to was
someone saying that neither Ch5 nor 4 are availabe FTV when in fact
it's just Ch 5 that is the one remaining channel .