thanks for the replies, the wall is solid construction so your
newspaper tip i will try. thanks roger. the pipework i can do whatever
needs doing, yeah i thought that pipe could be moved down with the
others, i think i'll need to chisel out some of the wall for the
shower pipes as currently they just hang across the wall, so would not
work with a shower screen, plus dont look good like that. anyone know
if those plastic shower pipes can just be put in the wall or do they
need any more protection against the sand/cement and plastering. i
like the ledge idea, people keep suggesting to me get built in
cupboards for the sink and wc but the cost is way too far above a
basic suite. the ledge / boxing sounds ideal as i dont have a lot of
stuff anyway to store. thanks again i'll start work on it next weekend
before my week off !