"Hawke" wrote:

The republicans didn't have 60 but they always had a few Democrats from
republican leaning states they could always count on to give them the votes
they needed. Like Joe Lieberman who could be counted on to vote with the
republicans whenever they wanted him to. Like I said you can't find examples
where republican senators crossed over and voted with the Democrats. If they
did they would never be allowed to keep living if they betrayed the other
republicans. Everything doesn't need 60 votes either only some issues. But
the point is the republicans had effective majorities when they were in
charge. As you can see from this congress the republicans don't let the
Democrats pass anything. It wasn't like that in the first six years of
Bush's term.


You are so clueless. Snowe, Lincoln Chafee (lasted for years), Chuck Hagel, Guliani,
McCain isn't an arch conservative either.

Wes