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There is indeed a strong link between Solutrean artifacts and very
similar items in America and there is some mitochondrial DNA linkage
between several native American tribes and some modern European groups
but as with any hypothesis for which there is absolutely no evidence
there is some dispute about whether the the Solutreans ever made it from
Europe to America at all let alone whether they did it by land or sea.
Nor that they used kayaks.


Can't you just accept that you have a religious belief about climate
change, or whatever it's called this week, and Terry has a different
one? Religions rarely ever agree.


I don't see my quest as for anything other than the truth. That quest is
currently taking me down the global warming road from a very sceptical
beginning.

To keep things simple I will repeat that snippet from Wikipedia:

"The greenhouse effect was discovered by Joseph Fourier in 1824 and
first investigated quantitatively by Svante Arrhenius in 1896.[2]

In the absence of the greenhouse effect, the Earth's average surface
temperature of 14 °C (57 °F) would be about -18 °C (–0.4 °F) [3]
[4](Black body temperature of the Earth). "

If it is accepted that the above is broadly correct then I can't see how
any disinterested observer can do anything other than accept that
varying the CO2 concentration has a significant effect on the
temperature.

To say as Huge did that the greenhouse effect is established fact but
has nothing to do with climate change beggars belief. Huge may not be
the genius he thinks he is but he certainly isn't stupid so what drives
the man to deny the obvious if it isn't religion.

In the final analysis it doesn't really matter what the source of the
CO2 is. If the increasing CO2 is a danger then it behoves our masters to
do something about it. All the signs are that we are teetering on the
brink. Recent years do show a slowdown but it will be several years at
least before it becomes apparent whether the trend is really still
upwards or the temperature really has peaked.

Perhaps we should revisit this subject in 10 years time by which time we
should have a clearer idea of who has got the wrong end of the stick.
:-)

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Roger Chapman