DGDevin wrote:
Fred the Red Shirt wrote:

What the Framers had to say at some _other_ point is
irrelevant.

Well, not exactly. The SCOTUS is known to look at the writings of the
Framers and legislation they were involved in at the state level and so on
in making rulings. E.g., in the recent 2nd Amendment case both sides
referred to such extra-Constitutional evidence in trying to illustrate what
the Framers meant.

Whatever religious beliefs the Framers had, they chose to leave
them out of the Constitution. That they chose to leave their
religion out of their politics for their most important political
work, should serve as an inspiration to today's politicians.

Amen to that.

An odd turn of phrase, given the context of this discussion.


People can believe whatever they please, doesn't mean I want
the more extreme versions moving into the White House. Oops, too late.


You're absolutely right. There's no way that Obama and his pal's
Phelger and Wright (two men of the cloth with whom he communed
with regularly - well, one of them anyway) could ever be as vile
as a more-or-less traditional Christian. Again, I am not defending
Christianity particularly here. I am holding your view up to the
ridicule it deserves. Phelger, Wright, Ayers, and host of other
vicious, race-baiting, violent, and generally horrid influences on
Obama get scant notice. But a president that expresses a fairly
mainstream Christian viewpoint is "extreme'. You're hilarious.
I'll take the whacky right over the nasty, cruel, victim-laden
socialists that you adore.


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