The Medway Handyman wrote:
Tanner-'op wrote:

Regarding home birth.. I can't let some of the comments go un-
answered! Homebirth is as safe as hospital birth for normal
low-risk births based on the statistics, this is with trasfers to
hospital taken into account.

Bollox of course it isnt, you have no access to back up facilities.
You are simply a potencial burden to the ambulance service.

What about you then Dave - a die hard smoker? There are more
deaths/problems from lung cancer caused by smoking than home births -
so that make you a "potencial (sic) burden" not only to ambulance
service, but also to the various departments of the local hospital
for many years!

But my early death will save a fortune on pensions & care.

Oh goody, when will that be?


Obviously hospital is needed in some situations
but these things rarely happen suddenly without warning. This is
my fourth baby but first home birth. First three very
straight-forward but hospital was just a really unpleasant
experience for me, I really want the full attention of a midwife
and to be in my own relaxing surroundings. The only differences
for me will be...

That you are getting the extra attention you crave. Never mind the
extra cost to all of us via the NHS.

What about you and that filthy smoking habit you have getting the
attention that you crave of the NHS? - Not to mention your kids
passive smoking as well!

I don't crave the attention of the NHS, in fact I'd like them to
leave me alone & stop lecturing me. My kids don't passive smoke, they
don't live at home.

If you smoke, then you crave the attention of the NHS - and did you smoke
when the kids were at home?

a) I'll have the full attention of a midwife throughout

But not the attention of a fully staffed NHS unit with access to
every possible resoursce you might need.

But surely the lady is saving the NHS some cash?

Unless a problem occurs.

Just like you and your smoking then!

b) I'll be able to use the pool for relaxation and pain relief
(have used before but not allowed last time due to hospital staff
issues - def. does give pain relief, at least it did to me)

And its 'trendy'. You have endless material to bore the arse off
people at dinner parties when you talk about your 'birthing
experience'.

A bit like you and the not so subliminal span in this group for the
Medway Handyman "look how good *I* am, after all I'm "recommended" by
trading standards" - now whose a "boring" *and* arrogant b****rd?

Why would I want to spam a DIY group, most of whom live well away
from my operating area.? And I don't use the sig that mentions
trading standards anymore.

Well stop using the Medway Handyman signature then - which just happens to
be the name of your 'firm'. Now was that an accident or subliminal
spamming? ;-)

c) I won't have to travel in the middle of labour and then possibly
wait around and argue to be allowed into the delivery suite.

But if anything goes toes up you cause the NHS sh*t loads of extra
time & expense.

Lets see what extra time and expense you are going to cause in the
future with that smoking habit of yours.

Smokers are less of a burden, we contribute between 5 & 7 times what
it costs the NHS to treat us. One of the highest tobacco taxes in
the world

"Smokers are less of a burden" - now that must be the daftest thing I've
read from you in ages. Take a wander into the "chest clinic" of your local
hospital and ask the patients how many are non-smokers.

And would you say that the average female of today doesn't contibute to the
National Insurance Scheme or Income Tax fund?

I bet there are many females out there who earn far more than you do, and
who pay a damn site more than you ever you will to the government - whether
they use the services or not!

Tanner-'op