"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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Ed Huntress wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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Ed Huntress wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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Ignoramus32074 wrote:

In light of the latest news, I started wondering why did Sarah
Palin
suddenly elope with her husband and started googling for "track
palin"
"born on". And I found something interesting.

Sarah Palin's son, Track Palin, was born on April 20, 1989.

http://www.alan.com/2008/08/29/conse...family-values/

Sarah married her husband on August 29, 1988.

Doing a simple math and making some assumptions, it becomes
instantly
obvious why they actually "eloped". They eloped because Sarah was
pregnant for about a month as of the day of their wedding.


Yawn. Get a life.

Exactly. Iggy doesn't seem to get it. "Family values" are things that
social
conservatives prescribe for *other* people. It doesn't apply to them.
Jesus
loves them and they've been saved. It doesn't matter what they do.


No Ed. This has been happening since the beginning of mankind, in
both poor and rich families. You can do your best to educate a child,
but you can't live their lives for them.

Of course. But don't try to tell that to a "family values" social
conservative. As I quoted in another message, they take a dim view of the
"liberal" lack of parental responsibility. As radio evangelist Jonathan
Lindvall says, God ain't going to go for any excuses for parents who were
too busy for their kids. James Dobson and other right-wing nutbags say
the
liberal morality is going to destroy the country.


OK, Ed. Let's say that you're in your '60s and your oldest kid who
is in their 40s robs a convenience store, then kills the clerk. By your
logic you would have to be sentenced, along with your kid.

No, you don't get it. The issue here is that one group, the social
conservatives, feel they're morally superior to another group, the liberals,
and they get their rocks off telling the liberals what's wrong with them,
how they're destroying the country, and how they ought to change their ways.

Nobody is talking about sentencing people to prison. The social
conservatives seem to be perfectly happy to bitch and look down their noses
at the "liberals," the "medial elite," the "Eastern elitists," and any other
strawmen and scapegoats they can identify.

You can give
a child all the attention in the world, and have them turn into the
biggest loser in the world. You can only teach, you can't force them to
listen.

Of course. Practically everyone is well aware of this. The left side of the
equation isn't telling the right side how to behave. They're pointing out
that the right wing prescribes "morality" for everyone else, and then when
one of their own slips up, they make excuses for it. My point is that, given
the evidence of their prescriptions and their criticisms of the "inferior"
morality of the left, if the shoe was on the other foot they'd be howling
like banshees. And everyone knows it, except for a few deniers here.

That's what's going on here. It's ALL that's going on here. The lefties are
gloating about it, and the righties are steaming and fuming. That's the
whole story.

Your attitude is proof of this. I suppose you want to sone the
kids to death in front of city hall?

Michael, will you wise up? How many times to I have to tell you this for it
to sink in? Those aren't MY attitudes, nor those of most of the
non-social-conservatives. The point is what transparent phonies the social
conservatives are. As for teenage kids screwing and getting pregnant, that
happens, and we as parents are responsible to do what we can to teach them
how to keep it from happening. But that doesn't mean it won't happen.

The point is that it's enormously ironic that it happened to the daughter of
a "family values" conservative. It looks like one of life's little paybacks
for being a self-righteous prig. That's why it's funny, and that's why the
left is getting a hoot out of it.

Or is it just becasue they have
taken the political spotlight off Obama? They said on the news last
night they were even in some polls, and I'm sure that galls you.

You must have been watching the same bubble-headed blond I was watching. g
The press loves a tie, or any kind of drama, and she was quoting the CBS
poll completed on the 3rd -- one of several that's current. You can't look
at one poll. The politicos use RealClearPolitics to keep a running tab on
the polls:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

Obama has a five-day running average of +3.2.

Now, as for it galling me that one poll shows a tie, no, it doesn't gall me.
If McCain didn't get some bounce out of Palin, he'd might as well toss in
the towel right now. He'd better have a plus figure from convention bounce
within two or three days or he's in deep trouble. The race has another two
months to go.



Frankly, I'm getting tired of your attitude. You are no better than
anyone else on the planet, no matter what their faults may be but you,
like several others around here can't help but pass judgment on every
one of them. Don't tell me you've never made a mistake in your life,
and I don't believe you have ever walked on water.

What a phony. You, of all people, complaining about someone else in that
regard. You've set yourself up as a superior being on frequent occasions,
Michael. Just from current posts on the board, there's this: "Liberals
make
me want to puke..." Self-described liberals make up 17% of the US adult
population, more than the social conservatives (11%) or pro-government
conservatives (9%). Almost one in five of your fellow Americans make you
want to puke, they're so inferior to you.


There you go, trying to put you words in my mouth.

Put words in your mouth?? THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS THAT I CUT AND PASTED FROM
YOUR OWN MESSAGE! Did you forget what you said already? You just said that
liberals make you want to puke. Then you criticize me for "wanting to feel
superior" to other people. My God, man, don't you read your own material?

Did I ever say that some group makes me want to puke? No. I may disagree
with various political groups, but they don't make me want to puke.

You're the one with the problem, Michael, not me. And you appear to be
oblivious to it, besides.

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Ed Huntress