On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:10:15 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:04:04 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:37:11 -0400, wrote:
Keep it so that you can make Explosively Formed Projectiles. When
George Bush gets his Nazi police state, becomes Der Fuhrer, and
armored vehicles are rolling through your area to cart you off for
extermination, you can blow them to smithereens like the insurgents do
to M1A1 Abrams tanks in Iraq. The molten copper even cuts through the
mighty Abrams' armor.
Dave

Dave? Bush is out in January.

Now Im glad to see your BDS is not yet reached the terminal stage yet,
but early onset madness appears to have occured.

Now EFPs, platter charges and so forth are likely to be called for
..but it will be the Democrats National Polizi that will be the
benificiaries of said devices.

But hey..it was a good idea nevertheless.

Gunner

Dems....Repubs.....they are both bought and paid for and voting for
either is heading us all towards one world government. Da New World
Order.

It's time to get a whole slew of Ron Paul types up in DC and shake the
tree up.....people who actually want to live in a nation that still
has a Constitution, Bill of Rights, and the freedom that goes along
with it.

Ron Paul is probably incorrect about a return to the gold standard,
but he is absolutely correct about getting rid of the "Federal"
Reserve Bank.

The next Prez is going to inherit all those delicious Nazi powers that
GW Bush and Chenney gathered to the executive office, and I don't
think the next guy....dem or repub....will be giving them back.
Dave


The "Nazi" powers have been around since FDRs (and before) time.
Think Gitmo was unique?

Google "Manzanar"....and "Army + Coal Strike"...and "bonus marchers"

The problem with Libertarians...is not that I agree with most of their
platforms..which I do..is that they are going about it from the wrong
end.

They want to put a libertarian in at the top. If they managed to do
so...little would change and he would last (1) term because the Dems
and Republicans would cry long and loud about not being able to work
with him, setting the process back and leaving a bad taste in
everyones mouth.

Want real change? Start putting Libertarians in at the bottom, local
government. City councils, dog catchers, ombudsmen etc Let it
percolate for a couple years, then vote them into state politics.
Representatives etc etc.

Let the public understand that they are not all open borders/free dope
types, Muzzle or disavow those individuals.
To date..Libertarians are considered cranks, wackjobs and free dopers
by the general public..who dont bother researching their other
platforms.

There is no way in hell that Dr. Paul is going to get more than a few
percentage points of the vote because Libertarians are not a household
word, except in jest for most of the nation. And its bad enough
that they scare the **** out of the liberals and their wards of the
State....

You can only make Dr. Paul and his crowd popular, is from the grass
roots upwards, not from the top down.. Shrug..unfortunate but true.

Check out your Republican politicans..see which ones hold Libertarian
values..Republitarians..make them popular, support them..keep them
honest

Whatever ultimately transpires, will first be a fusion between
Republican and Libertarian outlooks. Pragmatic

True Libertarianism can come later, but you have to acclimate the
public with the goals and agendas first....show the public that it can
work.

Sticking Ron Paul on the hotseat will do nothing at all, particularly
since both the Dems AND the Republican leadership will hate his guts,
and do everything in their power to thwart him at every turn.

Contrary to the bleeves of the ultra far left extremist fringe kooks
here and in the real world..the office of the President isnt
omnipotent and he isnt some sort of king. Unless Congress ..both
sides is willing to work with him...he is largely helpless unless he
has widespread support in local, state and Federal Government.

I like Ron Paul. I like where the Libertarian party is going..they
have been weeding out the nutbars.

But there is no way in hell we can put one in the Oval Office without
doing it from the ground up.

So voting for him..is simply taking a vote away from the only person
capable of keeping a Marxist out of the Whitehouse.

Remember Ross Perot.


Gunner

"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,