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dpb

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On Aug 23, 4:44 pm, Fred wrote:
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I don't know, I'm not so sure. The fact that the joist above it is
doubled clearly indicates that doubled joist is carrying some
significant weight from above. The studs that are there now are
part of that overall support structure. Whether there is still
sufficient strength from the doubled joist being only supported on
both ends is questionable.
It's a header over the shelf area. You can see where two studs have been
removed to provide clear access to the shelves. So they ran the header piece
from post to post.

I don't think so. The OP clearly stated that the "joist" is a double
joist, running from the block wall to the center beam of the house.
That doubled joist is ABOVE those 2x4 headers that you're talking
about. And it could be carrying a large load from the floors above.
How large or how important those studs in the wall are in helping
support that load, we don't know.

Also, your observation about the removed studs for the access to the
area under the stairs is interesting. Why did they use doubled up
vertical studs on either side of the larger opening? If those studs
that he's proposing to remove aren't part of a load bearing wall,
there would be no need to double up the header, double up the stud at
the larger span where the opening for under the stairs is. If they
aren't bearing load from the double upped joist above, they are only
there to hold the sheetrock on the other side and there would be no
need to double them up when spanniing the opening.
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The double joists support (I suspect, but it's not been confirmed what's
above the floor which has been asked but not answered) the wall
alongside the stairs upstairs I believe.

The wall in question just looks like a fill-in wall w/ a double top
plate most likely done after the initial construction when the basement
other side of the stairs was finished. The double plate is most likely
not structural but simply there for nailing surface for a moulding at
the ceiling if I had to hazard a guess.

The question to OP is, are you going to remove the studs or simply turn
them 90-degrees? If the latter, they're still there anyway.

There's simply too much unknown to tell for absolute certainty but my
hunch is "no" to the question...

But, you really should probably get a real opinion if you're going to
actually remove structure unless can confirm some other way the hunches
here.

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