Dave Bugg wrote:
George wrote:
Dave Bugg wrote:
George wrote:

I never claimed they were an ISP but their business model is very
similar to what the "free" and "cheap" ISPs had. You paid a lower
rate because theoretically the ads that you were required to watch
would pay the difference.
So you are claiming that I won't be able to make or recieve a phone
call until I watch an ad? Do you really think anyone sits and
watches their dialer gui while making a call? I don't get what your
issue is here.
I don't have an issue. Is there some issue about discussing how
something actually works?

No. But you haven't presented an accurate picture of how MJ works. So how
about answering my question: Are you saying I am forced to watch an ad
before I can dial or recieve calls? I make calls by dialing my phone just
like I would dial any other phone. The gui is small, doesn't prevent me from
using other applications whilst on the phone, and is minimized to my tray.
So if there ARE ads running, so what?

The subscription fee isn't even close to anywhere near the actual cost
of providing the service.

Even IF what you state is accurate, so what? For $1.58 per month for good
call quality on long distance, I couldn't care less. If MJ folds, and again
that's IF, I've already had a return on my purchase in MJ many times
over..... so far, I've saved over $65.00 from a traditional voip.

The reason they chose the energy wasting
idea of having a computer running is so they could display ads.

I don't leave my computer 'on' any longer with MJ than before MJ. I suspect
most people don't either. Since most folks have cell phones, I suspect that
MJ is just a cheap way to access toll-free long distance. And since I never
see the ads and it doesn't impact my computer or usage in any way, so what?

There is no technical reason to have a full blown computer running for
VoIP.

So what? If the computer is running anyway, what does it matter? Even if
someone chooses to run their computer 24 hours a day, so what?


Because it wastes power. Likely you have never done an analysis of where
power waste occurs in a home. Most people would point at the high power
appliances but in reality it is the lower power continuous loads. Slow
and steady always wins the waste race. I care because collectively it is
a large waste of power because of a stupid business model and I can
certainly voice my opinion.


And maybe you don't care but check for new posts in this thread where
someone asks why does it need a computer when a low power usage adapter
would work (except for majicjack).


All of the functions are typically implemented in a tiny box
that has a network port and a phone port. Right now they are burning
up investors money and the next step is they will need to turn on the
ads. That is their business model. There is nothing magical about
magicjack. It is the exact same model that was used by the "cheap and
free" ISPs that are now nothing by a vague memory. I agree that I
couldn't be bothered watching an ad in order to make a call but that
is the business model.

You keep repeatedly stating the same stuff. I get it. Your arguments aren't
persuasive.

Likely because I am not trying to persuade anyone. I repeated stuff
because people didn't read what I wrote.


I could give a rat's ass whether MJ lives or dies... I'm totally ambivalent.
I tried MJ, it worked as advertised so I didn't return it and it has saved
me money. MJ hasn't changed my computer usage, nor my computer access. Are
you sure you don't work for Vonage?, because it seems pretty silly to be
foaming at the mouth with rants against MJ.

Who is "foaming at the mouth"? Actually I just like analyzing hyped up
marketing.