On Jul 13, 12:15*pm, "Robert Green"
wrote:
w_tom wrote:

* *Protection is subverted when a protector is mislocated adjacent to

appliances. *A protector too far from earth ground and too close to
appliances is why an adjacent TV, 8000 volts destructively, earthed a
surge on Page 42 Figure 8. *TV damaged because the protector was too
close to appliances and too far from earth ground.

Permit me to shoehorn this thread into the OT Joe Horn thread: a surge is
like a burglar or a vandal. *You want to stop them at the perimeter, where
there's likely to be very little collateral damage. Since surges come in
through the power line (or phone line or CATV copper cable) the best place
to offload those excessive currents is *where they enter. *Using a protector
deep within the house allows the surge to enter a lot of the household
wiring that a protector placed at the wiring entrance *might* not.

Even though the common wisdom says to wait until a burglar is inside before
you shoot them., that advice usually comes from people who've never had to
clean up all that blood. *(-: *Unless you've seen it, you can't believe how
much blood a shot burglar can leave around while wriggling and writhing
around in pain, or worse yet, trying to escape. * To add even more insult to
injury, your house becomes a crime scene and you can't wash away the blood
while it's still wet (which is about the only time you can ever wash blood
away).

But I digress. *The point we are both trying to make (me via black humor!)
is that threats are best dealt with at or outside the permimeter of the
protected area, not within. *If you're going to surge protect your home, it
makes a lot more sense to do it at the point where the wires (and the
surges) enter the building. *That way, the surges don't dance around your
house like that shot burglar, ruining a lot of things that could have been
saved had the threat been stopped at the perimeter.

For those with a love of the weird, here's a lightning bolt burn on a man's
back:

http://teslamania.delete.org/frames/human_LF2.jpg

:Lightning goes where it wants, when it wants to, and the best hope there is
to lessen its damage is to keep it out of the house by offering a more
attractive (groan) path to the ground. *The proper place for that "offer" is
right where the wires enter the house, not at some appliance located deep
within the house wiring.

--
Bobby G.


And no one here is disagreeing that a whole house surge protector,
properly installed, is the best first line defense for surge
protection. Of course it's best to deal with the surge before it gets
into the house.

The problem is, W_, with his religious beliefs, denies and rants that
plug-ins can't offer any protection and in fact, actual create
damage. Plug-ins can offer protection by clamping voltages coming
into a protected appliance. And how about people who can't install a
whole house protector? For example, those living in a rental
property or an apartment? Clearly using plug-ins can be effective.
Everyone here seems to agree, except W_, who's stuck on his religious
beliefs.