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Abrasha

John R. Carroll wrote:
wrote:
On Jul 11, 12:17 pm, "Hawke" . In other words we
have to help them out even though they are too stupid to know they
need it.

Hawke
I do not consider myself as stupid. But
I am independent. I do not want your help.

And therein lies the problem Dan.
You think caring about an individual is the same thing as considering the
collective need.
It isn't.
This is just one more issue that ought to end up on the table with some sort
of considered effort to define what we all want, as a nation and not as
individuals, the minimum standard for an American to be juxtaposed with the
thought that we'd all like to have a prosperous future. As a nation, and not
individually.

After that, you can be all on your own, and listen, don't give me guff about
"socialist" leanings. We used to, and might once again be, a nation of laws
and not men under a constitution that recognizes the strengths of collective
action and the importance and primacy of individual rights. They aren't
mutually exclusive you know.

Thank you for that post.

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