On Jul 11, 8:50 am, bud-- wrote:
Still never seen - a source that agrees with w_ that plug-in suppressors
are NOT effective.

Quoted from both Bud's citations are how plug-in protectors are
ineffective. Bud simply cut and pastes the same replies everywhere to
even deny what his own citations note.

If a plug-in protector provides that protection, then each type of
surge is listed in its numeric specs - with numbers that claim
protection. Why does Bud never post those numbers? Even the
manufacturer does not claim that protection. Not only do plug-in
protectors sometimes contribute to adjacent appliance damage. It does
not even claim to provide protection. Why does Bud repost myths
repeatedly? Bud is a sales promoter of plug-in protectors. He is so
dishonest as to not even admit this conflict of interest.

Install one 'whole house' protector from other responsible
companies. Eliminate surge threats to every appliance. Only more
responsible companies market 'whole house' protectors - Siemens,
Keison, Intermatic, Leviton, Cutler-Hammer, Square D, GE, etc. Profit
margin on effective 'whole house' protectors is not obscene.
Therefore APC, Belkin, Tripplite, and Monster Cable do not provide the
effective 'whole house' protectors.

How to quickly identify ineffective protectors? 1) No dedicated
earthing wire. 2) Manufacturer avoids all discussion about earthing.
A protector is only as effective as its earth ground. That surge
energy must be dissipated somewhere.