"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:20:06 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed
Huntress" quickly quoth:

Larry, don't do the stupid act. We don't believe you're stupid. d8-) You
know better than to draw such a connection.

Damnit, Ed. You know full well that he'd do EXACTLY that the second he
hit office. My thread of connection may have been a bit thin, but
_that_is_his_nature.

I don't know where you're getting that idea, Larry. I don't see it in his
biography. Mostly it's just crap that the pundits have been cooking up.

I hear it in all of his speeches, at least for the brief periods I can
stand listening to pols spew their bull****.

I listen to his speeches, too. You must be listening to different speeches.

Shrub started the money
disgorgement and a Democrat is right in the wings to take over and
likely expand it. He'll stop the war and go right on spending
billions/day. Mark my words; if he's elected and makes it to office.

OK, we'll mark your words. g I suspect that we'll have a significant
increase the federal budget one of these years, when single-payer finally
(and inevitably, in my view) becomes the way we pay for healthcare. But it
won't, in itself, increase our out-of-pocket. It will just switch it from
private payments to public payments.

Obama may be the one to do it. He'll try, anyway. He may not succeed, given
the politics, and given the astronomical sums contributed to politicians by
my former employers, the drug companies. It will mean the end of their
joyride in candyland (mostly with no competition, thanks to all the tricks
that can extend drug patents, and paid for by you and me, and everyone else
who has health insurance or who pays out of his pocket), and they won't go
down easily. But it will happen sooner or later.

As for the effects of taxes themselves, we've been over this before, but tax
money doesn't just disappear from the economy. As you say, they spend it --
in other words, it goes right back into the economy. Beyond a certain point
taxes put other burdens on the society, and they change the complexion of an
economy. But note that several countries in Europe, where they pay taxes
that would make your eyes roll back in their sockets, are doing a lot better
than we are right now.

Our problem is debt, not taxes. And, from Ronnie Reagan to the Shrub, our
supposedly "conservative" Republicans have had us living on a big credit
card in the sky. That has to stop, and right now. McCain won't stop it.
He'll continue the deficit spending that has us in this big black hole,
given half a chance, because he'll do everything he can to continue Bush's
tax policies -- mostly for the wealthy. That's one of my big worries about
McCain. I like the man, but he's married to some profoundly stupid and
destructive economic doctrines.

I have a bad feeling about his survivability, though. If there aren't
enough nutcases out there already, think what Hillary might set up. We
saw lots of casualties during the reign of the Clintons last time.

He apparently is willing to take the chance. More power to him.

The
ADA/ACU ratings are reductionist nonsense, like a megaphone for the
hard-of-thinking.

I had no idea what you were talking about there until I googled 'em,
and now I tend to agree, at least from the brief visit I had.


Greed will do that to every control freak. She, of all people, should
know that by now, eh?

I doubt if she'll ever give up being a control freak. She's been like that
all her life.

Most lawyers (and then politicians) are, but she's taken it to another
level altogether, hasn't she? g

--
Deep doubts, deep wisdom; small doubts, little wisdom.
--Chinese Proverb

--
Ed Huntress