"John Grossbohlin" wrote in message
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campsite. No goodies in camp, PERIOD!

John


Wanna bet?

This is a Woodbadge Scouter talking. :-)


The last time the bears found something at the council camp it was a Scout
Master's lean-to and personal possessions that got trashed by the bear
(not our group). This isn't the kind of irresponsible example we like to
set for the boys... There are no bear boxes on the sites and the camp has
an electric fence around the dumpsters to discourage the bears. They had
to destroy one bear that came back several times after being relocated and
having food/snacks in the tents would likely lead to more being
destroyed... Goodies have to be consumed and the waste removed to the
dumpsters before bed!

I've led the troop into wilderness camp sites many times and I've laid down
the rules for each trip. I was inferring that in spite of the rules you lay
down, a scout will sooner or later bring goodies. I cancelled a Philmont
trip because some of my older scouts brought goodies on a wilderness
campout.
I wasn't suggesting the rules weren't necessary, but the only way I know to
insure they are followed is to inspect all of the boxes prior to departure.
When you said No goodies in camp, PERIOD!, I knew that sooner or later a
scout will transgress the rule.

In our troop we made a campout, one every month. Except for summer camp,
they all were backpacking trips. We earned the polar bear patch at least
once a year. For the non-scouters, that means we slept on the ground (in a
tent) when there was ice on the tents in the morning. In spite of the
regimen, the scouts still transgressed rule. They were the older scouts as
is evidenced that we were Philmont bound. I will say they got the message
though, I never caught them with the goodies again.

Have you done the Woodbadge training? I'm a Beaver. I still have my beads
and I treasure them. :-)