On Wed, 28 May 2008 13:20:35 -0400, sandpounder
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Joy wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:32:16 -0400, Ken wrote:

wrote:

On May 26, 9:45 pm, Ken wrote:

wrote:

Is there a standard for installing under mount sinks in a granite
counter? The company who created the counter top cut the hole for
the
sink about 1/4 inch larger than the sink opening all the way around
so
that, when looking down from above, we see 1/4 inch of the stainless
steel sink.
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The guy who measured for the counter top didn't mention any options
or
give any choices. Our neighbor has a granite counter and her sink is
flush.

When you had the cutout made for the sink, you had two
options. One
was a flush opening with the sidewalls of the sink, and the other is
a
recessed one. It sounds like you have the recessed option. I would
hope you were consulted as to which one you wanted, for it is too
late now.

The measuring guy took the template that came with the sink.
I did call the sink manufacturer and was told that there would be no
problem installing the sink flush if that is what we wanted so it's
not a matter of incorrect installation vrs correct.
I still think the guy who measured should have given me the option of
flush with the granite since I never even considered that there would
be another way to do it (which is why I'm starting to get annoyed when
people say I should have requested it... I never thought there was
more than one way it would be done and NOT this way!).
I suppose a discount is the most I can hope for. This is why I'm
looking to the people here to tell me if I'm being unreasonable.
Joy


Sorry to hear that you were not given the choice. I recently had
a new countertop and under mounted sink installed. Since I purchased
the sink and had it in hand when the countertop people measured for
the counter I knew exactly which options I had. That being said, I
opted for what you received because after having talked to several
others who had such a sink, I thought the joint where the under
mounted sink and countertop meet would be less apt to accumulate
crud. I realize that they caulk this joint, but a flush mount does
create a larger cavity than the recessed one you have. I don't know
if this is any comfort to you, but I just thought I would share my
experience with you. You might talk to some who have an under
mounted sink and see which they prefer.

Hi Ken,
Thanks for sharing your experience with me. I think you are correct
that the joint in a flush mount would be slightly larger but it IS
sealed with good silicon caulk so I doubt any crud would get in there.
But now I have the 1/4 inch top lip of the sink to clean and I don't
like the look as much.
I'm still looking for opinions as to whether the granite place should
have given me an option. They say my designer should have gone over
that with me and I should have mentioned it to them. I had a guy do
all the work (designer? HAH!) and he didn't think about it since I did
most of the dealing with the granite place. He just got a price and
told us to pick what we wanted in a certain grade. I'm still feeling
the granite place has all the experience and should know the sink
options since they do it all the time. They COULD have done it had I
asked but I DIDN'T KNOW to ask as I keep telling them.
SHOULD they have asked and do I have a right to be unhappy they didn't
and should they do SOMETHING for me pricewise?
Thanks,
Joy


Joy,

Sorry about your experience. They might have asked but unfortunately
they are not obligated to ask. If you bought a car off of a dealers lot
and then complained, " I didn't know it came in blue", you have the
right to be unhappy. But the salesperson wasn't obligated to tell you it
came in blue. Caveat emptor. You have the right to be unhappy, but I
don't think that anyone is obligated to do anything about it.

I don't think that they have any obligation to knock anything off they
existing price. If you asked nicely, they might replace the sink slab
with one with the cutout you're looking for at a discount (addn'l cost
admittedly). Your best recourse on the existing work is with your
designer not the granite fabricator.

S


Thanks for the input, S. I can't disagree with you and nobody else has,
either.

I find it sad that they didn't ask even if they didn't have to. They
wouldn't have had to do much, if any, extra work and now they have a less
than 100% happy customer. (I didn't bother to mention the hole and the
dimples they put in the side of the cabinet by using too long screws to
install the sink support blocks or the silicon they got on the oven glass
and stainless steel door that I can't get off. Anyone have any ideas about
removing dried silicon caulk????)

This is the first time my contractor used them also and he is not happy
because I'm not happy. All this unhappiness simply because they didn't
ask or didn't train their people to know to ask. That's what bothers me
the most. I know what happens when you give people too many choices, but
everything else was already decided and it would have been a quick and
easy question.

I was told they will run the question on an adjustment up the ladder. I'm
not holding my breath. I hope this thread helps others who may not have
known like I didn't know.

Joy