On May 24, 11:43*pm, ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) wrote:
In article , (Comboverfish) writes:
| Hi,
|
| I was hopeing some of you could shed personal opinion on my decision
| to buy either stop or ball valves for the below detailed purpose.
|
| I have/had several previously installed sillcocks in our house that
| have no shutoff valves ahead of them. *One of them froze and burst
| last year so I went out and grabbed the first water flow control
| valves I could find at the HW store, unfortunately they are gate
| valves, and by design they leak somewhat in fully closed position.

Interesting. *I didn't realize this.

| Now I want to replace them with something that will work 100%. *Here's
| the quandry:
|
| With a rubber sealed type stop valve I could take out the mechanism
| and repair it for many years to come, but in theory they restrict flow
| somewhat.

You could always step up a size. *I use 3/4" globe valves for nominally
1/2" sillcocks.

| With a Ball valve, they don't restrict flow as much, but are not
| serviceable (the ones I've seen) short of desolder/replace. *Added
| bonus is the 1/4 turn ease.

Take a look at Apollo/Conbraco Pipe Master ball valves. *They have in
effect a union on each end so you can replace the body. *(I'm sure
that wasn't their main goal, but it's a nice side effect.) *I was really
down on ball valves since most of those (professionally) installed in
my house a few years ago have failed, generally in the sense that they
no longer shut off fully. *At least with Pipe Master replacement isn't
such a pain.

Two issues with Pipe Master (other than high price): *they don't have
drain ports and while they all claim to be full-port the 1/2" model
doesn't look it. *The 3/4" model is clearly full-port.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dan Lanciani
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ddl@danlan..*com

Thanks for the ideas. I'll look into Pipemaster tomorrow, otherwise
the 3/4 stop valve idea sounds just fine.

BTW, something happened when I tried to fix a couple errors in my
post, so there's two threads now about the same thing. I posted, left
the house, came back, and the original send page was still hanging,
resubmitted the form and now there are two, except the first only
appears as your reply. Strange.