"Wes" wrote in message
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"Ed Huntress" wrote:

'Dunno, strabo. If anyone ever wrote and enforced laws that made sense, we
might find out. But when they pass laws to prevent committed psychotics
from
buying guns over the counter, and then don't bother to put the names of
those people in the database, you have to wonder if they're serious.
Likewise, when they record the serial numbers of guns at the time of sale
and then the ATF doesn't track guns confiscated in crimes back to the
source, to prosecute the proxy buyers, you have to wonder if they have the
sense that God gave a grape.

The whole system is so riddled with holes and lapses of judgment that no
one
really knows if we could stem the use of guns in crime, or not. So far,
it's
all a bunch of political posturing and falling down on the real job. It's
a
political farce masquerading as crime prevention.


Well I have a simple solution. Good guys kill bad guys or just pose a
credible threat so bad guys start thinking crime doesn't pay. As it is,
the
worst areas have unarmed citizens in them.

'Sounds like you believe that they think like you do. But they're criminals
and you're not, so, by definition, they don't.

Most use of guns in crimes is criminals brandishing, threatening, or
shooting other criminals -- convicted felons, in most cases. The number of
gun-related crimes committed against lawful citizens actually is a very
small percentage of crimes committed with guns, Wes. Since criminals may be
carrying illegally as it is (the ones committing the crimes with guns
certainly are), it doesn't appear that the "credible threats" have much
effect.


The definition of nuts if left to a liberal would include 40% of the
population. Just an estiment.

One that comes right off the top of your head, at that. d8-) Since the
righties are the same ones who say that liberals want nutcases to run around
loose, I think that this is a prediction that one might make either way,
depending on which point one is trying to make. In neither case is it based
on only facts, only imagination.


Theft, straw purchases, illegal sales will always work for a prohibited
person.

They certainly do now. But there aren't any credible laws on the books that
could prevent them.

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Ed Huntress