On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:47:10 -0700, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:42:36 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote:


California is an "At WIll" State. I can fire someone if I dislike as
much as the color of their socks.

And yet it gets accused of being so lefty. That's what I get for
engaging in stereotypes, I guess.


Wait till the fired employee takes John to the Labor Board.

Been there/done that. When the letter came I called the number and then
faxed over a copy or the Emps signed "AT Will" employment agreement. These
sorts of agreements aren't legal in a lot of States but there isn't a single
instance of a case even going forward once the legal precedent had been set.

Care to provide a guess at how many companies have that form signed,
or even know what it is?
G

The down side is that if you invest heavily in an employee to educate or
train them, they can take your training and leave anytime they wish and
don't owe you a dime.

Ayup. And?


Then you will see just how far left California really is.

LOL
For what it's worth, California has a couple thousand offenders in jail long
past their time served release date.
You'd think, having served their full sentences that they'd be released but
they aren't. This too has been tested in the courts and affirmed.

So you are saying that the Leftists in charge of California really
dont care about prisoners rights?

Gunner who hired and fired as a senior management type in a company
for 18 yrs

You shouldn't have been allowed to do so until you'd been preperly trained
and advised. Guys like you are the reason many otherwise legitimate
employers have been put out of bussiness. I'm sure you meant well and did
your best but your boss made a big mistake.

Oddly enough..I was well trained and provided all certs for the
company, as well as having my name on the company certs, and only lost
1 labor board case out of several hundreds.

I myself did take a company to the Labor Board once. And having all my
ducks in a row, not only won, but got damages large enough I got a 6
month paid vacation out of the deal.

Gunner



"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr