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Default Wilkins Ice Shelf disintegrating

On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:43:44 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, Don
Foreman quickly quoth:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:04:15 -0500, Ned Simmons
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:14:27 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Ned Simmons wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:10:42 -0600, Lew Hartswick
wrote:

Now if the temp of the entire ocean change by even 5 deg it would
be 999.7838 kg/m cubed which is a change of .019 %
I don't see any attempt to claim the Entire ocean could change
by that in any event.
...lew...

Don't forget the average depth of the oceans is over 10,000 ft; .019%
of 10,000 is 19 ft.

Using numbers for seawater rather than fresh, I get an increase in
water level of 10 ft for a 1 degree C increase in temp from 10 to 11
degrees. (Ignoring the increase in surface area of the oceans due to
coastal inundation, but you get the point.)


So, you are saying all the water in all the oceans will rise at the
same rate?


No, that's what Lew said in what was apparently an appeal to common
sense in order to allay fears about a warming ocean. I merely pointed
out the hazard in making such an argument without checking your
numbers.


Good guidance, Ned ... but you might check your numbers too. Try
entering 10000*.019% into Google. It comes back with 1.9, as does
MathCAD.


James Hanson, claiming 80', apparently needs math tutoring along with
his rectal/cranial inversion therapy.

Algore says 20'.

According to Horner's book "Zwally, et al. (2005), found that the
combined net loss of ice from Greenland/ Antarctica would account for
a sea-level rise of 0.05mm per year during 1992-2002. At that rate, it
would takw a mere millennium before sea levels shot up by a full five
centimeters." European satellites show between 0.03 and 0.05mm. This
is a far different figure than Algore's 6,095.95mm, isn't it? Zwally
gets 5mm for that same century of heating. Hmmm...

The IPCC thinks the rise might be between 14 and 44cm. According to
Horner, the Earth has seen this type of rise before. Pfof. Morner
visited the Maldives and discovered that the sea level has fallen over
the past 30 years, and that the islanders had survived much higher sea
levels in the past.

Me? I'm not gonna sweat it.

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