"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
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Hawkie wrote:

So when the airline makes a corporate decision to risk lives and not
have
their employees do the maintenance required by law that is the union
workers
fault. If you idiots believe that then I have done my job of showing
how
biased and ignorant you folks are. No matter what happens you always
find
everything is the union's fault and always hold the company harmless.
Just
like good brain dead republicans zombies. Your motto is the boss is
always
right. Unless you're Terrell and then they are making mistakes.
What's
wrong
with this picture?


The only thing you've shown us is your continuing ignorance and
arrogance, big bird. You don't know enough of the real world to tell
anything to anyone. If someone breaks the law because their boss tells
them to, they are both guilty, just as you are of not seeing the real
issues. Lazy, inept, or dishonest workers lie and sign off for work
they didn't do, or didn't do properly and people die. They deserve to
be executed on live TV, no matter what their reason was.


You obviously have never actually known any union members. I would love
to
hear you bad mouth a few teamsters or iron workers and see how you would
fare. I don't think they would agree with your biased and ill informed
views
any more than I do. But they would kick your ass for the ignorant crap
you
spew, limp or not.

Hawke

I was in Maine, back in the early 60's, when the Teamsters arrived to
modernize the archaic trucking business there - mostly owner-drivers.

The Union told the Truckers about all the benefits they were going to
get. the Truckers wanted to know where the money was going to come
from and the Union said, "we'll raise trucking rates".

The Truckers were savvy enough to understand that raising rates would
(possible) cause some people to go out of business and (maybe)
actually reduce the amount of freight available to be hauled.

Told the Union they guess they weren't interested. Union (apparently)
brought some hard men in and 5th wheel locks started coming undone
while people were having lunch.

Truckers started carrying deer rifles in the cabs. Union went back to
New York.

Independent Truckers - 1
Union - 0

(details furnished by a Maine State Police Lieutenant with whom I was
friendly at the time)


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct email address for reply)


You don't want to mess with Teamsters. They earned a reputation for fixing
things with violence. They used to be run by Jimmy Hoffa, now his son. They
have been mob connected for a very long time. While I am pro union in
general that doesn't mean I don't know how bad they can be and have been in
the past. The Teamsters were one of if not the most crooked union in the
country. It's too bad that we had to have unions at all. But without them I
shudder to think what life would be like for working people. Whether it's
the Teamsters or the corporations I don't know which is worse. Both are bad
but you wouldn't have one if the corporations were not so greedy. On Book TV
today an author was talking about the four founders of the Southern Pacific
Railroad; Stanford, Hopkins, Huntington, and I forgot the last one. They
were called the Big Four. Boy were they crooked. As usual they made a ton of
money from government contracts to lay tracks to connect the country.
Without such greedy people at the helm unions wouldn't have come about. The
greed is catching too because as soon as the unions got power they got
greedy too. That's Americans for you.

Hawke