"John Stumbles" wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:51:42 -0800, blackhead wrote:

I have a 40W fluorescent ring type for an 18x9 foot kitchen which is
nice and bright but perhaps a little OTT since I have an 11W energy
efficient bulb lighting a similar sized room, the down side being it's
very dim to start with.

So what do you use to power your kitchen?

Our kitchen's a sort of L shape, and we have 4 * GU10 CFLs (7W or 9W
each -
I forget which) in a bar-type fitting over the worktops, hob & sink which
are in the 'foot' of the L, and a single 20W CFL in a pendant in the
less-used 'leg' part of the L. The GU10 types are infinitely better than
50W halogens in width of beam and colour (they're "warm white" and a lot
nicer than the yellowish colour of halogens) but take forever to warm
up, don't last particularly long and cost a lot. And when you replace them
you're throwing away a bunch of electronics as well as the glass bit.

However the other day I saw some rather nice fluoro downlighters about
100mm dia (including flange) and 100mm depth, cost about £17 each,
replacement lamps (glass only - electronics in the fitting) about £3-4.
Masses of light output - I think they're about 10W. Just got to go and
drill a hole in the ceiling while SWMBO's out, to see if I've got 100mm
clearance to fit them before I buy any.

They look interesting, got a link to them!?