Rob wrote:
Derek Geldard wrote:
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:48:03 +0000, David Hansen
wrote:

On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:03:07 GMT someone who may be "woodglass"
wrote this:-

Does anybody here really believe that it's cost effective to install
solar panels in the uk ?
Water heating panels? Yes in the right circumstances. The figures
speak for themselves. However, in terms of simple payback period the
financial investment will be a long term one. The idea that anything
should have a simple payback period of five minutes (to exaggerate
for effect) is not clever.

Run it past us again without the exaggeration.

However, simple payback period is not the only reason for doing
something.

IOW Dave doesn't do numbers.


For some* things it's impossible to drill down and produce figures to
inform an accurate cost/benefit analysis. Solar energy is one example.


On the contrary, solar energy is one thing is VERY easy to do a cost
benefit excercise on.

A fitted kitchen is not really, since its hard to see what the
alterntives are to having a kitchen, fitted or otherwise. Always eating
out? say at £100 a day for tow of you? tat makes the £10,000 'fitted
kitchen' pay for itself in about 3 years if it saves you ALL that, maybe
5 years if you still have to buy food. Harder to quantify, but still
possible.




If it was few would have new kitchens installed, to take just
one example.

Not the case. I changed mine when the hinges and fittings were
starting to pull out of the chipboard carcasses and doors, the bottoms
were pushing out of the drawers, and the runners had failed. Not to
mention the finish was deteriorating and the sink unit was damaged by
condensed water dripping off cold pipes and fittings.


I know many people who've changed perfectly good (IMO) kitchens just for
a new look.

Ive not seen many people fit new solar panels for that reason. Rip them
out and sell them for scrap, possibly..

I can't understand your point, if the kitchen is dropping to bits it
has to be changed. Where does the "simple payback period" come
into it ?

Exaggerating for effect at all?

:-)

Rob

* I'd argue that it's impossible in any event