Eric Stevens wrote:
(Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:
First, the Dorset *were also* Inuit. Second, they had not
"vanished". There has been no time between about 4500 BC and
today that Inuit people have not exist on Greenland.
The Dorset and Thule people were the *same* gene pool. The
climate changed, and they rapidly adapted their technology to
match. Dorset culture existed on Greenland from about 900 BC
until about 1500 AD, which is *after* the Norse colony was gone,
and is hundreds of years after the initial Thule culture showed
up.
Why do you have to *continually* change what you claim, and then
every single time you fabricate some new scenario that is just
plain bull****.
http://www.sila.dk/History/Dorset/LateDorset.html
From that site:
"In Greenland only the earliest and latest phases are represented
in the material dated so far; approximately 700 BC - 200 AD, and
800 - 1300 AD."
See - no 4000 years ago.
Eric, are you playing little boy games, or are you really this
dense?
First you say there were not Inuit people until the Thule
Technology appeared. Now you've finally gotten it through your
thick skull that Dorset technology was *also* Inuit people!
Wonderful... so you pull the same stupid stunt and say therefore
the first Inuit were Dorset.
Dorset was not the first.
If you read that site from one end to the other, and *remember*
what it says on each page, you'll find that the first Eskimos on
Greenland may have been either the Saqqaq or the Independence I
cultures. At present they have older Saqqaq artifacts than
Independence I, but they were clearly very close together. And
the oldest dates appear to put them there 4500 years ago.
Are they Eskimos???
"A few artefacts [sic] found in the area proves the existence
of older Palaeo-Eskimo [sic] groups, but it is unknown whether
they should be attributed to Independence I or to the northern
parts of the East Greenland Saqqaq culture."
Pretty much makes it clear that they are *both* identified as such.
And that particular web page says the Independence I artifacts date
to 2400 BC, and the Saqqaq artifacts to 2500 BC.
The related site http://www.sila.dk/History/Thule/Start.html dealing
with the Thule culture says:
"The Thule culture is the latest of the so-called Neo-Eskimo
cultures. Developed around 1000 AD in North Alaska it spread
eastwards along the Arctic shores of North America to Labrador and
Greenland, which was reached approximately 1200 AD.".
See - two different cultures in two different places around 1000 AD
and with almost no opportunity to meet. Some believe they may never
have met.
What the Hell are you talking about? *Nobody* believes they never
met! They lived in adjacent villages for hundreds of years. How
could a *very* mobile people, who traded with their neighbors for
hundreds of miles in every direction, not meet?
That web site says the Dorset culture continued be used by some
Inuit on Greenland until 1500 AD, or 300 years after they say
the Thule culture first arrived.
The idea that they never met is just another example of you
reading things into it that are not there. And worse yet you
ignore what they do tell you:
"The Eskimos of the Thule culture travelled [sic] throughout
the length of Greenland's coast."
Which is to say, over the 300 or so years when both Dorset and
Thule culture existed on Greenland, they *had* to have cross
paths not just occasionally, but with regularity.
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FloydL. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)