On Feb 22, 10:18*pm, r payne wrote:
Leon wrote:
"r payne" wrote in message
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*It comes with a guide and is built to use
that guide. *It comes ready for dust collection. *It has soft start
motor. *It has electronics that keep the rpm constant. *It has various
speed levels for different blades and material being cut. *It has a
pluge mechanism to make blind cuts.

SNIP

Now we are getting *to the nuts and bolts. *This is what I was looking
for.

Wee geez r payne. *Be more specific. *Most any tool can be had that is ready
with dust collection, soft start, ESC and or variable speed.

Might I add the stunning black color highlighted by the green knobs and
switches. ;~)

Just kidding. *Really, these tools don't leave any features out that I can
think of. *If there is a particular tool that you want to know about it may
be easier to answer your questions. *Most every Festool has 1 or more unique
features that stand out from the competition.

OK, now I am ordering you to take a couple of hours off and look at the
array of tools that you dealer will have. *It is eye candy galore and you
will be saying geeeee, those are cool features. *;~)

There is one dealer in town, all other dealers would take most of a day to drive
and visit. *I was there for a bit just before i started this thread, but after
standing in front of the display and handling the tools for maybe 20 minutes all
I could say was "they have some nice features but I don't see twice the cost".

Some of the features on some of the Festool tools probably justify the
twice the price. The circular saw and guide rail system and the
Domino are the ones I think have unique features you cannot find
elsewhere. So for them its twice the cost of nothing. No one else
has a tool with those features. (I know several brands recently came
out with plunge saws and guide rails as mentioned in another thread.)
Some tools like the jigsaw and some of the sanders, its hard to
justify the twice the price. I have one of their orbital sanders and
its nice. But twice as nice? Jigsaw is a jigsaw basically. Some
rave about the Rotex sander. Maybe it is a unique sander and
justifies the twice the price. Haven't used it. I recall an article
on cabinet installation in Tools of the Trade by the bearded skinny
Rhode Island guy. He used the Festool cordless drill. The $400+ one
with the eccentric and 90 degree chucks and removable chuck to make it
a very short maneuverable 1/4" hex driver. I don't install enough
cabinets to justify a tool that has useful and unique features like
the cordless drill. But he might and the tool cost is immaterial when
installing $50,000 kitchens once a month. Those extra features more
than pay for themselves. I like the circular saw and guide rail. But
if I was a framer/roofer cutting OSB for sheathing I would have no
need for the Festool accuracy. A 2x4 guide rail is more than good
enough. Or a freehand cut is good enough with enough experience. So
a roofer/framer would have no need for the Festool circular saw unique
features. But someone who does not have a sliding panel saw may be
able to get similar results, but slower, with the Festool when cutting
hardwood veneered plywood. Maybe comparing the Festool circular saw
to a sliding tablesaw is a more appropriate comparison than a
sidewinder saw. Maybe.



And during all that time no one came over to answer any questions I may have or
offer a demo. *From what has been posted there may be some new innovations and
new innovations always cost more. *So I think I'll wait a couple of years and
see what happens in the market. *Although I sounds like what I would try to
design if I was to build one.

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