"Inger E Johansson" wrote:
Floyd L,
I wonder which type of carpenter's plane you are believing we are talking
about. Found a photo of an alike at a Hembygdsmuseum(a district's local
museum) look at the 'hyvel' in the bottom:
http://medlem.spray.se/ffk_hjo/index-6.html_foremalfor lager image push on the photo.
This wasn't a tool anyone from Scandinavia would trade.
It wasn't a tool you would expect to be used outside the farm where the
owner had it or if the owner belonged to a Guild which had started in 14th
century(or earlier), he wouldn't dream to give it to an other person at all.
Snicker. Keep trying... the fact is that *anything* on a ship
that had metal in it (never mind sharp metal) was by definition
a "trade item".
Start looking at *shipwright* tools and stop worrying about a
bunch of Scandinavian farmers. For Goodness Sakes, by the time
period you are talking about there were all sorts of fancy,
ornate planes of rather artistic design all over Europe.
And you know there weren't so much Driftwood on Ellesmere Island that you
needed to bring one with you there.
And you know, that's beyond your scope of imagination. But
since I live about 400 yards from the Arctic Ocean, I'll be
happy to tell you that there is indeed enough driftwood to allow
people to build wood frames from skin boats. Not to mention
that it was a major source of structural material for igloos
(aka, sod houses). You might be able to believe that fitting
wood pieces together for a house would be typical use for a
plane; but I suppose the fact that a plane would be *many* times
more useful in the construction of an umiaq frame is probably
not within your limited grasp. Let me explain: a skin boat
frame cannot have any rough edges, nor can it have ill fitted
parts, else it sinks.
Do you even know what a plane is used for?
Inger E
"Floyd L. Davidson" skrev i meddelandet
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"Inger E Johansson" wrote:
Floyd L,
you don't know anything about who had or who hadn't carpenter's plane
before
1500. Yes the house dates to 1163-1435 AD (680 +100 BP calibrated).
Apparently *you* don't know a thing about who did or didn't have
carpenter's planes before 1500. In northern Europe they date at
least back to the Roman invasions, 700-1000 years *before* the
period you are speaking of.
In Scandinavia you wouldn't find a carpenter's plane owned by everyone,
not
even expect to have one for each man in a family. You better learn a bit
more about what tools that were common and what wasn't...
What you can find in a Scandinavian household has *nothing* to
do with what would have been aboard the average ship sailing to
Greenland in 1400.
Think for a minute! The ships are made of wood. They are *all*
equipped for repairs (and for that matter, to build a whole new
ship!).
Your comments are funny. So funny that is' not worth doing anything but
laughing.
You've got people rolling on the floor now. First you think
there is no wood in the Arctic, and conclude that therefore
Eskimos wouldn't see any value to having a carpenter's plane.
Now you say that because your experience is that not all
Scandinavians are carpenter's, there wouldn't have been a
carpenter or carpenter's tools on board any ships that colonized
Greenland!
All of that would be funny if you were joking, but you are
seriously trying to foist this off as pseudo science or
something. Maybe next week, but not this time...
You all ever heard of drift wood?
Get the drift yet?
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Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)