Eric Stevens wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 16:42:40 GMT, Seppo Renfors
wrote:



Tom McDonald wrote:

Seppo Renfors wrote:

Yuri Kuchinsky wrote:

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Others who specialize in Pre-Columbian American archeology agree.
Michael Smith, associate professor of anthropology at the State
University of New York at Stony Brook, says "the evidence she has, the
evidence from metallurgy, is the strongest evidence. I don't doubt at
all what happened... I don't know what more you could hope for, other
than finding a boat with a sign that says 'this way to Acapulco'."



Hmmmm perhaps this might do instead?

http://www.rocklakeresearch.com/history.htm


Seppo,

What do you find interesting in that web site? It reiterates,
without a shred of evidence and no references,

Well..... that alone should have been very attractive to you! I don't
really know why you are asking me, as you are not really interested in
my opinion - merely an opportunity to denigrate what ever that opinion
might be - irrespective of what it might be. You see, you have already
anticipated exactly that and started the denigration even though you
don't know WHY I posted that URL! So your question is redundant and
needs no answer.


the story of vast
amounts of copper being mined by Europeans ca. 3000 BC-1250 BC,
and shipped to Europe from the mines in the UP of Michigan.

Oh but that site tells of far more than merely that!!


The
web site's 'History' is right out of some of the more
speculative Mormon views of history and North American
archaeology, and has holes in it large enough to drive a lorry
train through.

Is "Mormon" a verboten religion in your mind as you hold that LABEL
up? It is indeed true that "North American archaeology" dogma has
"holes in it large enough to drive a lorry train through" (whatever a
"lorry train" might be). There is a will to retain the holes as well -
you know to protect the establishment dogma.


So, what do you find interesting and applicable to the present
topic in that web page?

You can't tell? How about some key words like "metallurgy" + "mining"
+ "Gulf of Mexico" + "Acapulco" + "cast copper" + "Cahokia" + "copper
trade" + missing copper.

Still, if you looked under the heading "Gallery" you might see
something interesting.


You should have posted http://www.rocklakeresearch.com/gallery.htm to
begin with.

Eric,

The Rock Lake stuff is interesting, but doesn't relate to the
issue of movement of copper in the New World. The link he
posted does. It is just that that url is full of recycled
claims without any evidence, and has been strongly challenged
without successful rebuttal. IMHO. Of course, Seppo could have
attempted to support that info, but chose not to.

Therefore, since Seppo didn't want to explicate his views on
the topic, he changed the topic. The second url is a head-fake.

Tom McDonald