"Steve W." wrote in message
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William Noble wrote:
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North Korea DOES have a fleet of submarines and they also have missiles.
They are currently working on long range missiles. You might want to
check it out. I am not scared of any of the little slant eyed ****ers.
I just don't trust them as far as I could throw their capitol building.
Having spent 21 years in the military I learned that not everyone wants
to be our friend. The crazy assholes running North Korea and China are
unpredictable and I don't trust them. Better to have the necessary
training and be ready than to sit on our asses, as those on the left
would have us do, and NOT be ready when something happens.

Jim

absolutely - and if NK could threaten and blackmail us directly, they
would do so - but they do not have long range ocean going submarines,
they do not have SLBMs, and for now, neither does China. We do not need
to do these tests and training under conditions that will cause serious
problems to marine life - we can move farther off shore, to a different
locale, or at a different time. Developing proper safeguards and doing
the test next year will not decrease our security.

WHAT? ANY SUB is long range and ocean going! Never heard of WWII in which
a LOT of German subs (far less capable than the ones that North Korea and
China have now) did a lot of damage and threatened the WORLD. Maybe you
missed that little fact. How about a conventional missile launched into
D.C.! They have that ability NOW. Maybe you don't think that the U.S.
should stop that? How about if they decided to target a few of the U.S.
coastal bases? Think a few torpedoes into Groton might cause a problem?
Maybe another Pearl Harbor attack? All very possible with the current crop
of Diesel/Electrics that Russia has been building and selling off.

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Steve W.


Perhaps you would care to reveal your sources for this new information? I
have some serious doubts about what you say - NK subs manage to reach SK but
barely,and they are very small - do you have evidence that they have
acquired ocean going subs? with what exactly will they target US bases on
the mainland? How will they launch a conventional missile into DC? You can
sit there and quaver in fear or you can look at what is actually a
capability. You can read on the web about rusting russian subs that are
avaialble cheaply, but there is no way that these could be bought or stolen
by NK without detection -- read up on a threat before you ramble - a couple
of good sources is Janes and FAS, you can learn a lot there.



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