On Jan 6, 1:36 am, "john" wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in der.co.uk...



Andrew Gabriel wrote:
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"The Medway Handyman" writes:
Someone recently described a 500w PIR flood light as "fixing a half
bar electric fire outside".

Which has got me thinking. Especially given the unreliability of
500w halogen lamps/lights.

So, given the choice between a 500w PIR halogen & an 11w CFL dawn
dusk light - which will be cheaper to run?

Obviously an 11w CFL dawn/dusk will be on for a much longer period,
but is low energy, won't be triggered randomly & will have a longer
service life PIR lights being a PITA IMO (sorry Rob)!

On the other hand a 500w halogen PIR in theory will be on for much
shorter periods, but will consume much more power.

Again in theory an 11w CFL could be on for 45 times as long for the
same energy.

So which one is the best deal for the customer?

Depends what the customer wants. However, if an 11W CFL is good
enough for the customer, a 500W halogen was never required in
the first place. An 11w CFL is nearer to a 40W light bulb.

I find people have two thoughts on this. One is security lead, "a light
switching on will deter burgulars", the other is convenience lead " if
we/visitors arrive after dark there will be a light on".

I'm starting to think dawn/dusk meets both criteria. Just wondering about
the energy costs.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
01634 717930
07850 597257

Get yourself off to B&Q, they sell a 500w style light which uses a
fluorescent tube.
You should be able to work out how much a light will cost to use. If
someone fitted a small 11w light as a security light for me, I would ask if
they were being serious.
You look out of a window and see how much the small 11w lamp will light a
garden compared to a 500w light. You can get a smaller 150w if you prefer.

Can also fit a 300W lamp in a 500W fitting , they`re the same length.

Been told by local Crime Prevention Officer that PIRs are preferable
in some circumstances because they change and alert anyone nearby that
there is movement. Constantly on light just becomes part of the
scenery.

11W CFL is fine for your porch it dosen`t cut it for lighting an area.

Have a few PIR floods lighting a lane/yard and quality does seem
variable, B&Q Parkhurst are absolutely the worst had to change couple
of them in last year. Homebase one seem to have lasted well.

Reccomend putting a little bit of copper grease on the front glass
securing screw, helps when changing lamps, no more seized on glass.

Adam