"Hachiroku ????" wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:30:56 +0000, Eeyore wrote:



"dbu." wrote:

Habeas Corpus is not suspended, goofy.

It is (in the USA) if THEY decide you're a terrorist. No proof required
whatever.

Graham


That's OK. No Problem. Since a LOT of the people they have incarcerated
for terrorism ARE terrorists!

Take the case of Dave Whatever from Austrailia. Wrote a letter to his Mum
saying he would fight, kill and die for the 'cause'. The cause was Jihad.
The tactics of the Muslims is terrorism. They jailed him at Guantanamo,
then moved him to a prison in Austrailia. He was released last week after
6 years.

Should have kept him at Guantanamo...



This is actually a tricky one, where a country has a fundamental principle
of freedom of speech. It's a big step from someone voicing Walter Mitty
delusions of being a terrorist, to actually being one. Just in the last few
weeks, a young girl has been jailed here in the UK under the prevention of
terrorism act, for writing delusional poems about being a terrorist.
Interestingly, she was employed in a shop at Heathrow Airport ... I don't
think that it was a particuarly clever thing to do, but you have to ask
yourself exactly what crime she has committed, in a country where people
supposedly have a right to say what they like, and hold whatever opinions
they like. There is a lot of double standards like this creeping in now. Had
this girl have been a character in a TV show, say, would the writer of that
show have been guilty of the same offence that she was, for coming up with
the poems, writing them down, giving them as a script to a credible actor,
and then getting them broadcast on public television?

There are now huge issues here with voicing any negative opinions in public
about anyone being gay, or about anyone's race or colour or most any other
characteristic, but it is fine to do so as part of a 'make believe'
television production. Why is it so hugely offensive for these people to
have negative comments made about them in reality, but apparently not when
it's done in the TV world of make believe ?

Arresting and incarcerating people for talking like a terrorist, without any
proof that they are actually a terrorist, is drifting towards a dangerous
situation of a totalitarian state, complete with thought police ...

Arfa